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#1 2009-03-31 04:39:33

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Random Shutdown

I get these random shutdowns every now and then. This is what I get on shutdown

Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib:  extension "Generic Event Extension" missing on display ":0.0".


waiting for X server to shut down XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"

      after 54043 requests (54041 known processed) with 3 events remaining.

XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0.0"

      after 3701591 requests (3701584 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

firefox: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
...


xinit:  unexpected signal 1

So, basically X shutsdown with fatal error 11 and then xinit says unexpected signal 1. This mostly happens when I am doing something in firefox -- or that's what I have noticed. Like scrolling to fast in firefox, or opening one tab too many...but never for the same issue. Does anyone have any clues?


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#2 2009-03-31 09:34:41

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Re: Random Shutdown

Flaky ram perhaps? Not unknown for ram to go on the blink. I used to have a problem a while ago when using photoshop in windows, the system would crash much like yours, and faulty ram was the culprit then. Just a thought.

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#3 2009-03-31 17:57:36

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Re: Random Shutdown

my0pic wrote:

Flaky ram perhaps? Not unknown for ram to go on the blink. I used to have a problem a while ago when using photoshop in windows, the system would crash much like yours, and faulty ram was the culprit then. Just a thought.

Well, if that's the case... I will just let it run till it burns. The computer in question is a 9yr old Dell and I am not about to invest anything in it. I might as well buy a new laptop later.


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#4 2009-03-31 18:12:32

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Re: Random Shutdown

Try Memtest86+, and a CPU-intensive benchmark from the command line. See if you can make problems without starting X smile

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#5 2009-03-31 18:15:19

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Re: Random Shutdown

Ranguvar wrote:

Try Memtest86+, and a CPU-intensive benchmark from the command line. See if you can make problems without starting X smile

To Do :

Will report back.


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#6 2009-04-01 04:56:15

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Its been 4.5 hours. The memtest is still running... I guess I will just get up in the morning and see the results roll


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#7 2009-04-01 10:55:34

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Re: Random Shutdown

Inxsible wrote:

Its been 4.5 hours. The memtest is still running... I guess I will just get up in the morning and see the results roll

If it was bad ram it should have caught it by now (bad ram shows up very easily and quickly) ..... might be something else, unless it is just really slightly flaky ram, thats hard to debug hmm


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#8 2009-04-01 15:30:55

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Re: Random Shutdown

R00KIE wrote:
Inxsible wrote:

Its been 4.5 hours. The memtest is still running... I guess I will just get up in the morning and see the results roll

If it was bad ram it should have caught it by now (bad ram shows up very easily and quickly) ..... might be something else, unless it is just really slightly flaky ram, thats hard to debug hmm

Guess what...its been over 13 hours and its still running. I just selected the Memtest86+ from the 2008 iso Cd. it had finished 34 passes. Will it be running 86 passes or something? If so, it might take another day.


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#9 2009-04-01 18:42:17

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As you see the ram doesn't seem to be the culprit, maybe the motherboard is starting to fail or some other component, as you say it's a 9 year old machine, it has endured many cycles of heating and cooling and the normal wear of the parts.
And yes solid state electronic parts wear out, if not from the mechanical stress of heating and cooling it can be from slow electro-migration, take your pick.
In your case, unless you can troubleshoot that to be a software problem I would start thinking of getting a new machine because that one is warning you now that it will fail you at the worst time possible. Keep your backups up to date, you never know if you will need them hmm


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#10 2009-04-01 21:41:58

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Re: Random Shutdown

I think it just runs until you stop it, unless you tell it otherwise.

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#11 2009-04-01 21:58:16

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Ok. I get 4 options Esc=Reboot, C=Configuration CP=Enable Scroll_Lock CF=Disable Scroll Lock.


Should I just hit Esc then?

By the time I reach home, it will probably have finished some 60 odd passes.


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#12 2009-04-02 12:30:31

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Oh yes, it runs until it finds an error or you tell it to stop 4 and a half hours isn't enough to run _all_ the tests but the standard ones will complete on that time I believe, thats why I said that ram doesn't seem to be the issue.
I guess its same to assume that the ram isn't bad and just stop it.


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#13 2009-04-02 12:59:50

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Re: Random Shutdown

what about cpu's  temperature?
is the fan clean?

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#14 2009-04-02 15:18:51

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Re: Random Shutdown

R00KIE wrote:

Oh yes, it runs until it finds an error or you tell it to stop 4 and a half hours isn't enough to run _all_ the tests but the standard ones will complete on that time I believe, thats why I said that ram doesn't seem to be the issue.
I guess its same to assume that the ram isn't bad and just stop it.

Oh I ran it for 22 hours !!

santiagorf wrote:

what about cpu's  temperature?
is the fan clean?

Well that's the thing, the CPU temp shows at about 42C-45C which I think is pretty normal. When I had Debian installed on it, it used to shutdown by saying "Critical temperature reached" - but the acpi would still show 42-45.

Arch on the other hand shows no such message or anything. So even if it is the CPU temperature, I can't say for sure.

Yes the fan is clean -- as clean as it could be with a ear-bud poking thru the small holes near the fan in the laptop

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