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#1 2009-05-24 21:11:10

caelestis
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Where is empathy?

Where is it? pacman -Ss empathy shows nothing. It's a part of gnome, why can't it be apart of the repositories with gnome?

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#2 2009-05-24 21:21:48

stefanwilkens
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Re: Where is empathy?

It's available in the AUR:
http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19779

Can't tell you why it's not in the repository though smile


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#3 2009-05-24 21:21:57

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Re: Where is empathy?

Why don't you file a bug report?

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#4 2009-05-24 21:24:12

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Re: Where is empathy?

I, too was wondering this the other day when "pacman -Ss empathy" turned out blank.


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#5 2009-05-25 01:45:20

Allan
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Re: Where is empathy?

thunderogg wrote:

Why don't you file a bug report?

Because it is not a bug...

A really old version had been sitting in [testing] for ages, but due to lack of time never got fully packaged.  It was removed and now a TU may put it in [community].

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#6 2009-05-25 08:53:32

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Re: Where is empathy?

well,i don't see a reason for having empathy in the repos,other than being a part of gnome


pidgin suits me just fine really smile

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#7 2009-05-25 10:30:52

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Re: Where is empathy?

mhh91 wrote:

well,i don't see a reason for having empathy in the repos,other than being a part of gnome


pidgin suits me just fine really smile

Hello fellow .
I'm thankful you're not a dev/TU .


English is not my native language .

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#8 2009-05-26 19:48:09

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Re: Where is empathy?

mhh91 wrote:

well,i don't see a reason for having empathy in the repos,other than being a part of gnome


pidgin suits me just fine really smile

because some users like to be able to choose...;)


I hope the situation will change for gnome 2.28...

Last edited by jorchube (2009-05-26 19:48:30)

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#9 2009-05-26 22:09:33

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Re: Where is empathy?

i'm working on it big_smile

btw i will upload the stable version so i don't want to hear complains or mark out of date.

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#10 2009-05-26 23:49:59

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Re: Where is empathy?

empathy... and all its dependencies?


anyway, thank you for your work wink

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#11 2009-05-27 00:03:27

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Re: Where is empathy?

sure jorchube


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#12 2009-05-27 00:16:27

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Re: Where is empathy?

Gimme an Empathy that doesn't depend on GNOME and I'll be happy.

This "choice" BS only goes so far considering Empathy is tied to GNOME, Kopete to KDE. Leaves me with no real options. hmm


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#13 2009-05-27 01:33:40

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Re: Where is empathy?

SomeGuyDude wrote:

Gimme an Empathy that doesn't depend on GNOME and I'll be happy.

This "choice" BS only goes so far considering Empathy is tied to GNOME, Kopete to KDE. Leaves me with no real options. hmm

... it's for the gnome desktop.

you'll need libraries for some apps, it's the way it is. Consider the alternative *shudders*


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#14 2009-05-27 02:09:25

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Re: Where is empathy?

stefanwilkens wrote:
SomeGuyDude wrote:

Gimme an Empathy that doesn't depend on GNOME and I'll be happy.

This "choice" BS only goes so far considering Empathy is tied to GNOME, Kopete to KDE. Leaves me with no real options. hmm

... it's for the gnome desktop.

you'll need libraries for some apps, it's the way it is. Consider the alternative *shudders*

But that's just it. It's TIED to GNOME. You can install Epiphany without needing, say, the gnome-keyring and all the others. I'm a lightweight user and needing a whole bucket of GNOME stuff just for one application is crazy. Few other apps have that problem, especially in a field that needs alternatives as desperately as IM clients.

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#15 2009-05-27 09:53:43

wonder
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Re: Where is empathy?

i think is better to compile telepathy-mission-control with gnome-keyring support for better security(gnome-keyring or other type is a feature request for pidgin too). i don't know what method of storing password will use if i --enable-keyring=no. better is to compile yourself an upload to aur as telepathy-mission-control-nognome or something smile

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#16 2009-05-27 10:30:45

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Re: Where is empathy?

I have Discrete Mathematics and Mathematical Analysis II smile

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#17 2009-05-27 11:08:20

Allan
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Re: Where is empathy?

Gruntz wrote:

I have Discrete Mathematics and Mathematical Analysis II smile

Did you miss this thread? http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 19#p559519

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#18 2009-05-27 11:09:04

wonder
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Re: Where is empathy?

empathy 2.26.2 is now in community. feel free to submit bugs  and feature request if i miss something big_smile

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#19 2009-05-27 11:22:35

moljac024
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Re: Where is empathy?

Allan wrote:
Gruntz wrote:

I have Discrete Mathematics and Mathematical Analysis II smile

Did you miss this thread? http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 19#p559519

lol


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#20 2009-05-27 12:10:40

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Re: Where is empathy?

wonder wrote:

i think is better to compile telepathy-mission-control with gnome-keyring support for better security(gnome-keyring or other type is a feature request for pidgin too). i don't know what method of storing password will use if i --enable-keyring=no. better is to compile yourself an upload to aur as telepathy-mission-control-nognome or something smile

That'd be cool.

Actually, I spent an hour yesterday just trying to get it to work, no go. After repeated "network failures" on every single protocol, finally it managed to connect to AIM but then said every single one of my contacts was offline. Awesome. roll

I wonder how many GNOME libraries I actually need that aren't listed as explicit dependencies.

Last edited by SomeGuyDude (2009-05-27 12:13:07)


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#21 2009-05-29 18:34:19

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Re: Where is empathy?

Thanks for uploading it to the repositories smile As it turns out, my local mirror was outdated... switching to another Canadian mirror helped smile

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#22 2009-05-29 18:52:24

moljac024
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Re: Where is empathy?

SomeGuyDude wrote:
stefanwilkens wrote:
SomeGuyDude wrote:

Gimme an Empathy that doesn't depend on GNOME and I'll be happy.

This "choice" BS only goes so far considering Empathy is tied to GNOME, Kopete to KDE. Leaves me with no real options. hmm

... it's for the gnome desktop.

you'll need libraries for some apps, it's the way it is. Consider the alternative *shudders*

But that's just it. It's TIED to GNOME. You can install Epiphany without needing, say, the gnome-keyring and all the others. I'm a lightweight user and needing a whole bucket of GNOME stuff just for one application is crazy. Few other apps have that problem, especially in a field that needs alternatives as desperately as IM clients.

Oh come on, seriously, are GNOME libs going to eat out your hard disk ? roll


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#23 2009-06-16 05:27:38

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Re: Where is empathy?

I just installed empathy from community, but when I go to add my accounts it says
"to add a new account, you first have to install a backend for each protocol you want to use"
so, where's the dependency for google talk?

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#24 2009-06-16 05:33:52

Allan
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Re: Where is empathy?

Optional Deps  : telepathy-gabble: XMPP/Jabber support
                 telepathy-butterfly: MSN support
                 telepathy-idle: IRC support
                 telepathy-salut: Link-local XMPP support
                 telepathy-sofiasip: SIP support
                 telepathy-haze: libpurple support

Google talk is XMPP

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#25 2009-06-16 13:28:44

perbh
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Re: Where is empathy?

*looking under the chair - shaking head*
Hmmm - no empathy there ...

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