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Zibi1981

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When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

Sorry if this has been posted somewhere else in this (or other) topic, I couldn't find any, but when could we expect a new Arch installation CD containing new kernel? The reason I'm asking this question is I'm preparing to do a fresh install - I want to change my filesystem from JFS to EXT4 (the old kernel on the current installation CD has an old version of EXT4 with some bugs making some files to disappear while using KDE4) and want to start using KDE4 at last (from a freshly installed OS of course).
Any info on that matter? Once I read on this forum, I believe, that there will be a fresh installation CD with every new kernel release, but I guess that wasn't true...:rolleyes:

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scarecrow

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

What do you mean by "old version of ext4"?
The filesystem specs have not changed at all. It was just the implementation of the FS in kernel 2.6.28 which was buggy.
And- you can always use tpowa's "archboot" semi-official installation CD's- as far as I know they are working very well.
Myself using ext4 in all partitions, installed from 2009.2 and having zero issues.

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wonder

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

the allocator has been changed.
http://thunk.org/tytso/blog/2009/02/26/ … revisited/

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

And- you can always use tpowa's "archboot" semi-official installation CD's- as far as I know they are working very well.

These are not semi-official in any way, they're unofficial.

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andre.ramaciotti

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

AFAIK, the problem with ext4 doesn't depend on with which kernel version the filesystems were created, but which kernel version you're running. Besides, you can add the 'nodelalloc' to the mounting options. You won't benefit of all the ext4 features doing so, but at least you won't have problems with empty files.

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Zibi1981

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

Anyway, any info on when to expect a new installation CD?

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fukawi2

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

No. When the devs have enough new features and motivation, it will come

Installing on ext4 from the 2009.2 Core CD then upgrading your kernel, or installing on ext4 using the 2009.2 FTP CD will 'solve' your problem.

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Zibi1981

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

I'd prefer to do a fresh install from a CD anyway, so I guess I'll have to wait patiently.

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stefan1975

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

I always just do a FTP install using the most recent cd that is available at the time. It is just a shell that way to fire up the ftp installation process leaving you with a fully updated system when you're done, so no need to pacman -Syu and fragment your installation right after you are done, besides it is not as if the default install on the cd is *that* big, using my 10mbit cable it is just a matter of a few minutes before it is done, with 2.6.30-ARCH and a bootable ext4. I wouldn't do a cd install even if there was a newer one then 2009.02 ...... on the other hand if one is on a 14k4 modem line things might be different. A FTP install using Archboot 2009.05 also worked like a charm for me by the way, the cool thing of that is that i can use it both for my x64 laptop as well as my i686 desktop since it is a hybrid cd.

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app4des

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

Zibi1981, I don't understand what you are expecting and why you want the new installation media. You know the developers will make new CDs if it is worth it (for new features), or there is an important bug in the installer, you ask for nothing here.

An arch linux system, cd or ftp install, is almost useless if you don't have an internet connection to set it up.

Your needs only require an installation and/or upgrade of arch with "pacman -Syu".

Zibi1981

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

I want a new, different and clean filesystem, so re-installation is inevitable. I'll have to thing about doing an FTP-installation, though never done this before

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cdwillis

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Re: When to expect new installation CD for Arch?

The ftp install downloads all the core files from the repository and installs those. The files on the disk are only used to run the installer. The ftp install is no harder than a regular install and in fact I'd recommend it first.