[SOLVED] VIA and Creative SB Live issue

esters · 2009-07-24 21:57:22

Hi, recently I stubmled upon the exact same problem on Windows, but now it is haunting me on Arch too

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] [1106:0691] (rev 42)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] [1106:8598]
00:07.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 ISA [Mobile South] [1106:0596] (rev 12)
00:07.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 06)
00:07.2 USB Controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 08)
00:07.3 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C596 Power Management [1106:3050] (rev 20)
00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 [1102:0002] (rev 05)
00:08.1 Input device controller [0980]: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port [1102:7002] (rev 05)
00:09.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ [10ec:8139] (rev 10)
00:0a.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE RAID Controller [1106:3249] (rev 50)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)

The problem is that when I listen to audio file using Creative SB Live card and when I try to open a program or resize the window of the program I get scratching, disorted sound via speakers. The issue has been explained here. Help would be really appreciated

Last edited by esters (2009-07-28 11:05:55)

djszapi · 2009-07-24 23:36:18

Is there any crash or something in syslog/xorglog/errorlog ? What module do you use ? Which programs do you use ? Do you experience this with alternative programs too ?

esters · 2009-07-25 01:23:59

Messages log - http://pastebin.se/198579

Modules (ALSA) :

snd_seq_dummy           2696  0 
snd_seq_oss            31168  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      7012  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                53712  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_pcm_oss            40352  0 
snd_mixer_oss          17540  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_emu10k1           142976  0 
snd_rawmidi            21856  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_ac97_codec        106088  1 snd_emu10k1
ac97_bus                1540  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                73896  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_device          6768  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer              21068  3 snd_seq,snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          8844  2 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem            3748  1 snd_emu10k1
snd_hwdep               7656  1 snd_emu10k1
snd                    58436  11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_emu10k1,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
soundcore               6784  1 snd

I listen to music using MOC. Tried also with mpg123 and Xine, same result.

djszapi · 2009-07-25 05:34:07

Did you follow this official wiki page ?

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ALSA

Could you try it with aplay (according to the above describtion) and mplayer from commandline ? Is every settings okay, e.g. with alsamixer ?

esters · 2009-07-25 22:52:31

I followed the official ALSA instructions, alsamixer settings are ok. When I play and audio file with mplayer, I can hear clicking sounds when I write.
I also tried to remove all the extra PCI cards, set the BIOS settings to default, and tried different PCI slots, I got the same clicking,scratching sound.

djszapi · 2009-07-26 06:45:09

Could you try it with oss/pulseaudio ?

esters · 2009-07-26 11:58:58

I tried OSS, same result.

Currently I'm testing out Ubuntu 6.06 LiveCD, everything works as it should be

dmesg - http://pastebin.ca/1507831

esters · 2009-07-26 16:53:05

Djszapi, thanks for your help, but it's an HW bug.

http://kxproject.lugosoft.com/686b.php?language=en
http://www.realworldtech.com/page.cfm?A … 1401003409
http://web.archive.org/web/200208061412 … 86b_1.shtm

Last edited by esters (2009-07-26 17:05:50)

R00KIE · 2009-07-27 00:25:08

Did you look for a bios update for the motherboard?
If nothing works maybe you can find another soundcard for a good price, maybe an equivalent card to what you have, check the last link you posted for what other people were using as a replacement of their SB.

Still on the subject but not closely related, if I remember correctly the SB cards have caused problems after that too with some of the first nforce chipsets, I think the cards weren't detected properly or at all.

If you can ask a friend for a different sound card to test then do it and if it works get a similar card.

esters · 2009-07-27 02:34:40

I have the latest BIOS version from the Biostar's ftp site (It's an Biostar M6VBE-A).

There are many possible answers to why the data corruption occurs. The most common answer to the issue points to Creative to be at fault. When Creative designed the SB Live, they didn't design it to support PCI Bus mastering, therefore when in use, the SB Live hogs the PCI bus.

Well it's not much of an issue, since I've moved all my stuff on the laptop

Last edited by esters (2009-07-27 02:35:16)

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#1 2009-07-24 21:57:22

[SOLVED] VIA and Creative SB Live issue

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