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#1 2009-08-01 09:05:44

kakhavk
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font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Hi all!
Is possible to render fonts like mandriva, fedora or slackware?

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#2 2009-08-01 09:20:48

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

What do you mean exactly?


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#3 2009-08-01 09:22:29

deej
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Try the Wiki:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts

...if that's no help, get back to us with more details:
Lcd or Crt, for example; what is wrong with your current
rendering...

Deej

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#4 2009-08-01 09:33:08

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

I want say that in fedora fonts are more bold and antialias
I tried al from Fonts category Wiki of archlinux but it not solves my problems

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#5 2009-08-01 09:55:30

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Are you using KDE / Gnome / ...etc... ?

In KDE, go to 'System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts' and
'Force DPI' to 96 dpi. There you can also adjust Anti-aliasing.

Deej

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#6 2009-08-01 10:42:35

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

I am using GNOME

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#7 2009-08-01 10:56:30

deej
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Over to any Gnome users...

There will be a setting similar to KDEs somewhere
in the Gnome menu system.

Deej

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#8 2009-08-01 11:17:46

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

maybe here can see me anyone
it is fedora desktop menus and so ... and look at fonts
http://www.metztli-it.com/blog/media/bl … nstall.png


here is archlinux desktop menus and so.. and look it now
http://pub.lulz.ch/p/archlinux-someproblems.png

Last edited by kakhavk (2009-08-01 11:30:41)

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#9 2009-08-01 12:26:56

deej
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

http://lyncis.info/post/189/en
...from a quick scroogle search...

Deej

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#10 2009-08-01 12:30:27

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

I thought the Fedora fonts were horrible? No? I was wondering why they had a thread about making them look like ubuntu's.... Either way, it has to do with freetype and some other packages I believe.

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#11 2009-08-01 13:00:48

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

no font.conf was not solve my problem

yes problem is in freetype because in mandriva 2009.1 is fonts like fedora before you upgrade mandriva with freetype6 plf  packages

thanks all

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#12 2009-08-01 14:26:54

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Install the cairo-lcd and libxft-lcd packages from AUR. I'd say they look better than the Fedora ones.


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#13 2009-08-01 15:44:34

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

thanks but for me important is not font beauty, important is that fedora fonts is more bolder and when I am working many hour with code  fedora fotns are less tiresome than other nice fonts in ubuntu or archlinux
archlinux is stable good system with newest packages  and I want to work with archlinux and no other distros but my problem is fonts

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#14 2009-08-01 16:42:50

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

andre.ramaciotti wrote:

Install the cairo-lcd and libxft-lcd packages from AUR. I'd say they look better than the Fedora ones.

i agree, and i personally like

Xft.lcdfilter: lcddefault
Xft.hintstyle: hintslight

best.

screenshot:

fontsm.png


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#15 2009-08-01 17:17:55

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

yes but it is like windows cleartype where fonts background ligths with yellow color
antialias is more fine than cleartype I think

Last edited by kakhavk (2009-08-01 17:24:19)

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#16 2009-08-01 21:42:44

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

kakhavk, I suggest you read the Fedora thread and follow its links. Find whatever makes you happy with your own eyes and hardware. Because it's different for everyone, which is why you cannot just ask someone else what the best setup is. Yes, this is annoying.

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#17 2009-08-01 22:34:55

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

brebs wrote:

kakhavk, I suggest you read the Fedora thread and follow its links. Find whatever makes you happy with your own eyes and hardware. Because it's different for everyone, which is why you cannot just ask someone else what the best setup is. Yes, this is annoying.

Strange but especially the opinion on subpixel hinting like in  litemotiv's screenshot seems to be 50/50 against and pro. To me it it appears as 'fuzzy with purple and green pixels around the letters',  others see it as 'smooth and clear'.

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#18 2009-08-02 07:02:36

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

I dont want any subpixel fonts i want simple antialias like mandriva or fedora if is possible to use mandrivas libfreetype6 rpm
ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/mandrake/ … 1.i586.rpm
in archlinux I think this problem will solved for me

I now work in mandriva and was make snapshot
snapshot1.png

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#19 2009-08-02 08:01:12

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

rwd wrote:

To me it it appears as 'fuzzy with purple and green pixels around the letters'

Either your monitor is a bit crappy, or you need to experiment with the "rgba" setting in ~/.fonts.conf

kakhavk, yes it's possible. Take a look at Mandriva's src.rpms, to see what patches they apply to the font-related packages:  pixman freetype2 fontconfig libXft cairo
Also see how they set up /etc/fonts/

And, of course, play with ~/.fonts.conf

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#20 2009-08-02 08:39:53

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

I don't know so many system development
I am webprogrammer  and system programming is so far for mme
If I knew it it problem was not be for me smile

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#21 2009-08-02 09:02:39

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Looking at Mandriva's cairo, they are using Ubuntu's LCD rendering patch.

With my cairo-respect-fontconfig.patch smile

Edit: Updated Mandriva URL, for newer cairo version.

Last edited by brebs (2010-03-27 19:00:21)

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#22 2009-08-02 09:13:22

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

brebs wrote:
rwd wrote:

To me it it appears as 'fuzzy with purple and green pixels around the letters'

Either your monitor is a bit crappy, or you need to experiment with the "rgba" setting in ~/.fonts.conf

No really, it is a matter of preference.You will see it in every thread about font rendering. Even with native resolution and with the right subpixel order (rgb/bgr vertical/horizontal) some people just notice the color fringing more than others

Last edited by rwd (2009-08-02 10:22:21)

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#23 2009-08-02 09:19:13

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

maybe but in mandriva I know jus that libfreetype is that renders fonts as I need, when I was install libfreetype from mandrivas PLF package group fonts changed as archlinux or ubuntu maybe it is usefull for many people but I am working with this fonts sine fedroa 3 and for me is dificult to go in anothere fonts

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#24 2009-08-02 21:27:51

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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

Here's mine just for reference:

arch-fp.png

I got a monitor with 89x87 dpi and I used the Arch Wiki:Fonts like stated above.  If you want to be sure your DPI is correct and setting up a global fonts.conf you could take a look when I blogged about it:

Better LCD Font Rendering


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#25 2009-08-04 08:03:53

kakhavk
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Re: font rendering like mandriva, fedora or slackware

brebs wrote:

kakhavk, I suggest you read the Fedora thread and follow its links. Find whatever makes you happy with your own eyes and hardware. Because it's different for everyone, which is why you cannot just ask someone else what the best setup is. Yes, this is annoying.

it is contrary what i want.
is not possible in archlinux make fontsrender  as fedora ?

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