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#1 2009-08-01 23:54:42

heimdal
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NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

I know I should have looked up everything before updating my system, I didn't see any problems by updating xorg and nvidia. Now Xserver is down, it goes to black and will not let me change run levels via alt+ctrl+F(foo) and have to force reboot. I am unable to give you a log of what is up, but I am asking more to see if there is a way inside pacman or yaourt to downgrade the nvidia driver and the xorg packages to what they where before I upgraded. Thank you.

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#2 2009-08-02 00:08:10

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Assuming that you use grub, when it gets to the menu hit 'e' to edit. Select the kernel line and append '3' to the end of it (no quotes with a space) and save. You'll be able to boot into the console. You can use pacman, check the logs, whatever from there.

Take a look at this thread also. It may just be that your mirror needs to fully sync and another pacman -Suy will fix it:

http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77114

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#3 2009-08-02 09:04:23

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

i have exactly the same problem on my notebook with a geforce 7400go, since yesterday when nvidia drivers + kernel were updated i have the black screen, unable to swap to any console, nv works without problems though, so i can use it.

i went through all those logs and there were no errors in Xorg.log except for a warning

(WW) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: Error: Unable to find the DOS (Enable/Disable output
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     switching) file path under /proc/acpi/video. The NVIDIA X
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     driver will not be able to respond to ACPI display change
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     hotkey events.

whatever this exactly means!

help is welcome!

Edit: there is nothing in my xorg.conf except the thingy that the nvidia module is loaded, i tried it with a full xorg.conf as well, but same result!

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#4 2009-08-02 09:40:55

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Same problem for me... Since the update, I 've got the black screen and I can't swap to any console.
This is my Xorg.0.log, is there something wrong ?

X.Org X Server 1.6.3
Release Date: 2009-7-31
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-ARCH i686 
Current Operating System: Linux myhost 2.6.30-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 31 18:10:38 UTC 2009 i686
Build Date: 01 August 2009  07:38:31PM
 
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun Aug  2 10:25:52 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) ServerLayout "Layout0"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) |   |-->Device "Device0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "SynapticsTouchpad"
(**) Option "Xinerama" "0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(==) FontPath set to:
    /usr/share/fonts/misc,
    /usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
    /usr/share/fonts/TTF,
    /usr/share/fonts/Type1,
    built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(**) Extension "Composite" is enabled
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(II) Loader magic: 0xe40
(II) Module ABI versions:
    X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
    X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
    X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
    X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:0407:1043:1588 nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600M GT] rev 161, Mem @ 0xfc000000/16777216, 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xfa000000/33554432, I/O @ 0x00007c00/128, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded by default.
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  185.18.31  Tue Jul 28 16:15:35 PDT 2009
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so
(II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.2, module version = 1.1.2
    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.13.0
    Module class: X.Org Server Extension
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.1.0
    ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "nvidia"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so
(II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
    compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
    Module class: X.Org Video Driver
(II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
(II) Reloading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//synaptics_drv.so
(II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  185.18.31  Tue Jul 28 15:49:53 PDT 2009
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so
(II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "wfb"
(II) LoadModule: "wfb"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so
(II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
    compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
    ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
(II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
(II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
(II) resource ranges after probing:
    [0] -1    0    0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
    [1] -1    0    0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
    [2] -1    0    0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
    [3] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
    [4] -1    0    0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
    [5] -1    0    0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
(==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "TwinView" "0"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "MetaModes" "CRT: 1600x1200 +0+0, DFP-0: nvidia-auto-select +0+0"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
(**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration
(II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is
(II) NVIDIA(0):     enabled.
(II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8600M GT (G84) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes
(--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 60.84.49.00.24
(II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 1X
(--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU
(--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 8600M GT at PCI:1:0:0:
(--) NVIDIA(0):     Seiko (DFP-0)
(--) NVIDIA(0): Seiko (DFP-0): 330.0 MHz maximum pixel clock
(--) NVIDIA(0): Seiko (DFP-0): Internal Dual Link LVDS
(II) NVIDIA(0): Display Device found referenced in MetaMode: DFP-0
(II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: DFP-0
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Invalid display device in Mode Description
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     "CRT:1600x1200+0+0"
(WW) NVIDIA(0): Not using mode description "CRT:1600x1200+0+0"; unable to map
(WW) NVIDIA(0):     to display device
(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:
(II) NVIDIA(0):     "CRT:1600x1200+0+0,DFP-0:nvidia-auto-select+0+0"
(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1680 x 1050

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#5 2009-08-02 10:07:37

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

I can confirm this on my Acer with gforce 8800m GT 512MB RAM. Downgraded xorg-server to 1.6.2. and nvidia and nvidia-utils to 185.18.14-1 for now.

2nd broken package for today sad
Should have done something else than updating...

Harvey


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#6 2009-08-02 10:17:53

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Harey wrote:

Downgraded xorg-server to 1.6.2. and nvidia and nvidia-utils to 185.18.14-1 for now.

It works for me smile

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#7 2009-08-02 11:00:51

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Have you tried to recompile the nvidia driver from ABS?


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#8 2009-08-02 11:36:57

heimdal
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

How do I downgrade? I know it sounds kinda noobish but....
Oh also to skottish, I did perform sudo pacman -Syu when i updated

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#9 2009-08-02 12:01:07

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver


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For freedom is the man that will turn the world upside down.
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#10 2009-08-02 12:15:10

heimdal
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

XD Thank you, I do not know where my head went

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#11 2009-08-02 12:31:05

heimdal
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Downgrading did not work, I am still at a black screen.
Nvidia version is 185.18.29-1 and my xorg version is 1.6.2-1

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#12 2009-08-02 12:37:26

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

heimdal wrote:

Nvidia version is 185.18.29-1 and my xorg version is 1.6.2-1

You may try with the Nvidia version 185.18.14

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#13 2009-08-02 12:39:33

heimdal
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

yannickp wrote:
heimdal wrote:

Nvidia version is 185.18.29-1 and my xorg version is 1.6.2-1

You may try with the Nvidia version 185.18.14

Can not find it on my Var or in the other/"behind the curve" servers

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#14 2009-08-02 13:05:56

heimdal
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Oh I found it in ARM (Arch Rollback Machine) I wonder if someone wrote a script for it yet.... anyway

It seems that the only way to recover from this is a downgrade. I have not yet written a bug report, and I do not know what to write for the report. If someone could help me, as "after downgrading xorg and nvidia I among others was able to restore functionality but the logs of myown and others do not say anything about a problem existing" sounds... kinda vague

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#15 2009-08-02 20:49:53

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Thanks heimdal!  Pulling an earlier version from ARM resolved the issue for me.

pacman -R nvidia-utils nvidia

wget http://arm.kh.nu/extra::2009-7-30/os/i6 … pkg.tar.gz
wget http://arm.kh.nu/extra::2009-7-30/os/i6 … pkg.tar.gz

pacman -U nvidia-utils-185.18.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz nvidia-185.18.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

rmmod nvidia
modprobe nvidia
startx

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#16 2009-08-02 21:53:58

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Why don't you try to recompile to the nvidia packages from ABS? It's a much better solution.


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#17 2009-08-03 18:28:39

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

atolbert wrote:

Thanks heimdal!  Pulling an earlier version from ARM resolved the issue for me.

pacman -R nvidia-utils nvidia

wget http://arm.kh.nu/extra::2009-7-30/os/i6 … pkg.tar.gz
wget http://arm.kh.nu/extra::2009-7-30/os/i6 … pkg.tar.gz

pacman -U nvidia-utils-185.18.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz nvidia-185.18.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

rmmod nvidia
modprobe nvidia
startx

Thanks that work for me !
I just modify pacman -R for pacman -Rd.

But i'm curious to know how nvidia packages broke all tty and lock screen for black screen without  Xorg error

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#18 2009-08-03 18:46:04

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Worked for me too smile Just had to change i686 to x86_64... Thanks a lot!


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#19 2009-08-04 19:24:52

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Works for me too.
I did:

pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/nvidia-utils-185.18.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz /var/cache/pacman/pkg/nvidia-185.18.14-1-i686.pkg.tar.gz

because the packages were still in my cache wink
This unbroke my dell d620.  No need to downgrade Xorg (xorg-server 1.6.3-2 here)


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#20 2009-08-05 07:05:09

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Same problem after upgrade yesterday.

I had to downgrade to 185.18.14, .29 didn't work (same blank screen). However with 185.18.14 I cannot enable compositing in KDE 4.3. This becomes neverending story.

Dell D620
"VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300]"

and it seems that mostly impacted are Notebook graphic cards.

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#21 2009-08-05 12:27:21

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Same here...nvidia 8600 GT and openbox, and downgrading did not work. Something like one in two boots doesn't get past the black screen. Strange thing is, I installed Arch on a seperate partition to have a look at KDE 4.3, and it hasn't happened there yet.

Swapping Openbox for KDE is not an option though smile


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#22 2009-08-05 17:21:00

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Dell XPS M1710 with nVidia G71, GeForce Go 7900 GS

nvidia-185.18.31-1-i686 and xorg-server-1.6.3-2-i686 = Epic Fail...have to login via SSH and "shutdown -h now", could not kill X server

nvidia-185.18.14-1-i686 and xorg-server-1.6.3-2-i686 = Fully functioning.

stock Arch 2.6.30.4-1 kernel, pretty darn current on pacman -Syu


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#23 2009-08-05 18:21:11

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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Did someone write a bug report ?

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#24 2009-08-05 20:02:35

idx
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

Had similar problem on my laptop, downgrading to .14 worked (with kernel 2.6.29)

However

Why don't you try to recompile to the nvidia packages from ABS? It's a much better solution.

I always compile the nvidia driver from ABS (for my personalized kernel), and still had the same bug. So compiling the driver probably won't help.

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#25 2009-08-05 20:10:11

abala
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Re: NVIDIA XORG update, killed xserver

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