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#1 2009-10-08 18:38:33

apocdozer
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What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

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so I log in with "root" and then I input my password

I'm probably and actually most definitely over my head here but can anyone help me out to get to a graphical terminal/UI

I don't think I'm ready for Arch as I have just started linux, but if someone points me in the right direction it would be great.

Thank you for any replies!

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#2 2009-10-08 18:43:08

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

apocdozer wrote:

http://imgur.com/6cvH9.png

I'm probably and actually most definitely over my head here but can anyone help me out to get to a graphical terminal/UI

Yes you are. Arch doesn't have a graphical UI by default. You have to install the one you want. You should have read up on Arch first. But considering that you have successfully installed it, it wouldn't be too hard to get a graphical UI. Its only a matter of 1 command depending on which DE you want. Gnome, KDe, Xfce or if you just want a Window Manager. Also you would have to create a user  on the system. Have you read the Beginners Guide? It lists everything that needs to be done to get a working Arch system.

apocdozer wrote:

I don't think I'm ready for Arch as I have just started linux, but if someone points me in the right direction it would be great.

Thank you for any replies!

If whatever i said above about DE and Window Manager doesn't make sense to you, then you might be right. You are not ready for Arch since you have just started.

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#3 2009-10-08 18:47:04

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

This should expain everything needed to start: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide

Kind regards,
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#4 2009-10-08 18:50:29

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Go to the wiki, and read the beginner's guide. It lists step by step what you have to do. It has a few confusing moments where there are sort of optional steps based on what hardware you might have or what you want from your setup, but basically it's excellent. Read all the parts, even if you don't need them.

In fact, you may want to re-install using the detailed instructions there, in case you've missed anything.

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#5 2009-10-08 18:52:34

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Thank you both very much for replying so quickly.

I do think I am over my head but I'm going to take the time to read the entire Beginners guide before I give up, and before I post again.

I appreciate your help.

Edit: @*david_a*

I am running ArchLinux as a virtual machine with VMware Workstation. Just to explain my exact situation.

I think I might do that and create a new virtual machine just to make sure I've not missed anything, thank you

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#6 2009-10-08 18:53:19

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

apocdozer wrote:

What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Open a beer? Then -as everyone else has already suggested- work through the Beginners' Guide step by step.

Good luck: you are through the worst of it...

/typo

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#7 2009-10-08 18:56:52

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

jasonwryan wrote:
apocdozer wrote:

What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Open a beer? Then -as everyone else has already suggested- work through the Beginners' Guide step by step.

Good luck: you are through the worst of it...

/typo

I'm not sure I am passed the hard part because all I really did was follow the setup

I use VMware, so I downloaded the archlinux.iso and ran it as a new virtual machine

I basically just pressed enter a bunch of times (any other keys to follow the set up) but it wasn't very hard

Once I reached the log in screen and logged in I was very confused on what to do next, I was expecting to be greeted with some easy GUI.

but yeah my best bet is to go read the guide, which I'll do now

I'm just some Windows noobie who should have switched to Linux years ago

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#8 2009-10-08 20:27:21

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

If you got through the installation without issue, then you're ahead of most any of the begginers out there, and I'm sure you can handle setting up a DE. Just use the wiki to install gnome or KDE until you get a better grasp and don't need the hand-holding of those DEs.


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#9 2009-10-08 20:29:03

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

apocdozer wrote:

I'm just some Windows noobie who should have switched to Linux years ago

many of us started out that way, so welcome and godspeed smile


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#10 2009-10-09 09:42:27

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

The wiki is very helpful, I'd like to thank everyone for being so nice.

But now I am stuck at a certain part of the wiki:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beg … ith_pacman

(Down to the # nano /etc/pacman.conf part)


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What do I put for the "Server" and "Include"

I'm guessing an actual URL? Maybe off archlinux.org?

Do I use a URL from http://users.archlinux.de/~gerbra/mirrorcheck.html?

Thanks for all the help!

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#11 2009-10-09 10:00:41

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

No need for now. Just make sure core, extra and community are uncommented.

Here is mine:

[core]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/core/os/i686/
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/extra/os/i686/
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/community/os/i686/
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Just ignore the Server part and it will fetch the server from mirrorlist in /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

If you want to specify a nearest server just put it in the Server line. You can find mirrors here.


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#12 2009-10-09 10:02:23

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

sss too slow...

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#13 2009-10-09 14:42:06

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Adding a mirror worked but now when I try to "pacman -Syu" I get this error.

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I went back and added:

"Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/"

to:

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but when I did pacman -syu again it still had the same error

Should I just go on and skip this? or can I some how fix it

#
# /etc/pacman.conf
#
# See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

#
# GENERAL OPTIONS
#
[options]
# The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.
# If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.
#RootDir     = /
#DBPath      = /var/lib/pacman/
#CacheDir    = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile     = /var/log/pacman.log
HoldPkg     = pacman glibc
# If upgrades are available for these packages they will be asked for first
SyncFirst   = pacman
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl %u > %o

# Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup
#IgnorePkg   =
#IgnoreGroup =

#NoUpgrade   =
#NoExtract   =

# Misc options (all disabled by default)
#NoPassiveFtp
#UseSyslog
#ShowSize
#UseDelta
#TotalDownload
#
# REPOSITORIES
#   - can be defined here or included from another file
#   - pacman will search repositories in the order defined here
#   - local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files
#   - repositories listed first will take precedence when packages
#     have identical names, regardless of version number
#   - URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo
#
# Repository entries are of the format:
       [repo-name]
       Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org
       Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
#
# The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and
# uncommented to enable the repo.
# 

# Testing is disabled by default.  To enable, uncomment the following
# two lines.  You can add preferred servers immediately after the header,
# and they will be used before the default mirrors.
#[testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/community/os/i686/
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/community/os/i686/
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
# Add your preferred servers here, they will be used first
Server = file:///backup/pkg
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/community/os/i686/
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# An example of a custom package repository.  See the pacman manpage for
# tips on creating your own repositories.
#[custom]
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs

Is there something wrong with my pacman.conf?

Last edited by apocdozer (2009-10-09 14:42:44)

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#14 2009-10-09 14:52:05

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Oh no no that's where I keep "my" local repo. Just remove the "Server = file:///backup/pkg" from pacman.conf and then try pacman -Syy and pacman -Su

EDIT: Please see that you have written "community" for [core] and [extra] repo as well in the Server line, change them accordingly. See my pacman.conf

Last edited by sHyLoCk (2009-10-09 14:54:28)


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#15 2009-10-09 15:02:20

apocdozer
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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

sHyLoCk wrote:

Oh no no that's where I keep "my" local repo. Just remove the "Server = file:///backup/pkg" from pacman.conf and then try pacman -Syy and pacman -Su

EDIT: Please see that you have written "community" for [core] and [extra] repo as well in the Server line, change them accordingly. See my pacman.conf

In my actual .conf I used a different mirror and I did have it /core/etc  /extra/etc

That was my mistake

ok I'm going to remove the Server = file:///backup/pkg and see if that works, thank you

(again I did replace community with core and extra in my .conf I just didn't in my post, I forgot)

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#16 2009-10-09 15:06:38

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

apocdozer wrote:
sHyLoCk wrote:

Oh no no that's where I keep "my" local repo. Just remove the "Server = file:///backup/pkg" from pacman.conf and then try pacman -Syy and pacman -Su

EDIT: Please see that you have written "community" for [core] and [extra] repo as well in the Server line, change them accordingly. See my pacman.conf

In my actual .conf I used a different mirror and I did have it /core/etc  /extra/etc

That was my mistake

ok I'm going to remove the Server = file:///backup/pkg and see if that works, thank you

(again I did replace community with core and extra in my .conf I just didn't in my post, I forgot)

ok I did this and I get

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When I do pacman -syy

Are the first two errors fine to ignore or should I go back into the .conf?

Maybe I should try a different mirror


Edit: I did pacman -su

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So -su looks good, it's just -syy has the two errors



Edit: inputted command "powerpill -Syu"

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Looks up to date but something with the "repo name" not found



Edit again!:

lol ok after trying all of that I inputted "pacman -S sudo vim"

NrN24.png

I'm thinking it's linked with the errors above, I'll stop here for now before I go further and maybe create more errors lol

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#17 2009-10-09 15:21:11

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

First off, welcome to Arch. smile

My suggestion would be to not put any servers in your pacman.conf and just edit the /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist to uncomment some mirrors that you would like to try.  If pacman can't hookup to your first choice it will continue with the next.  Then when you see which one works for you, you can move it to the top of the mirrorlist.  Later on when you're more proficient you can try something like rankmirrors to pick the fastest mirror in your area.  Your screenshot shows you got the repo info downloaded from somewhere and you can just ignore the first error for umflint.  Carry on. big_smile

Edit: Woah.... before I got a chance to reply you added a whle bunch of other stuff.  I must think or type too slow.  For the vim problem go to the archlinux.org homepage and read the comment on vim and follow the suggested directions.

Actually that's a good hint for any time you are about to upgrade to see if there are any known issues before you go and do the upgrade.

Last edited by bgc1954 (2009-10-09 15:30:09)


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#18 2009-10-09 15:39:52

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

bgc1954 wrote:

First off, welcome to Arch. smile

My suggestion would be to not put any servers in your pacman.conf and just edit the /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist to uncomment some mirrors that you would like to try.  If pacman can't hookup to your first choice it will continue with the next.  Then when you see which one works for you, you can move it to the top of the mirrorlist.  Later on when you're more proficient you can try something like rankmirrors to pick the fastest mirror in your area.  Your screenshot shows you got the repo info downloaded from somewhere and you can just ignore the first error for umflint.  Carry on. big_smile

Edit: Woah.... before I got a chance to reply you added a whle bunch of other stuff.  I must think or type too slow.  For the vim problem go to the archlinux.org homepage and read the comment on vim and follow the suggested directions.

Actually that's a good hint for any time you are about to upgrade to see if there are any known issues before you go and do the upgrade.

yeah the reason why I added a server manually was because I didn't know how to edit the mirrorlist lol

I fooled around and tried "nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist"

I got this:

34zkh09.png

Because it was empty I assumed I did something wrong, so I tested "mirrorlistfdgd" (knowing it wouldn't be an actual file"

11s37d0.png

And it is the same thing, so I'm not sure on how to access/edit the mirrorlist file


And your signature made me laugh lol

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#19 2009-10-09 15:42:54

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Maybe try reinstalling pacman-mirrorlist.

#pacman -S pacman-mirrorlist

Edit: and no you're not wrong--your nano command was correct. wink

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#20 2009-10-09 15:52:31

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

bgc1954 wrote:

Maybe try reinstalling pacman-mirrorlist.

#pacman -S pacman-mirrorlist

I did #pacman -S pacman-mirrorlist and it installed with no errors

then I did "rankmirrors -n 6 mirrorlist.backup > mirrorlist"

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But I'm still not sure where to edit the actual mirrorlist

I tried "nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist"

and "nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist.backup"

and "nano mirrorlist"

and "nano mirrorlist.backup"

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#21 2009-10-09 15:57:51

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

There we go again--you're adding stuff before I finish my editted post.  Nice game of tag here.  As I said before, nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist is the correct thing to do.  And to do a rankmirror all you have to do is rankmirrors /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist but you have to have a mirrorlist first obviously.  Sorry.

Edit:  Or here just cut and paste this into your /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist to get you started if there's still nothing there.

# Arch Linux repository mirrorlist
# Generated on 2009-06-16
#

# Canada/USA
Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/i686
Server = http://mirrors.portafixe.com/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://mirrors.portafixe.com/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
Server = ftp://ftp.archlinux.org/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirror.archlinux.com.ve/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirrors.gigenet.com/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://mirrors.hosef.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirrors.hosef.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = ftp://locke.suu.edu/linux/dist/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://schlunix.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirror.sourceshare.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://archlinux.umflint.edu/$repo/os/i686
#Server = http://mirror.umoss.org/archlinux/$repo/os/i686

You do appear to be in a little over your head.  tongue
And here's an interesting read http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=45119  You're not alone.

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#22 2009-10-10 00:16:46

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

whoa ,,,  this is way out of control for a newbie and a simple point.  Simple answer is look at nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist and ensure at least one country is not commented out.  That means no # at the beginning of the line. 

Then do

sudo pacman -Syu

Then lets see what happens.


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#23 2009-10-10 00:53:27

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

Also from lxde.org

This line will install that DE.  It is a pretty clean envornoment, and will allow a newbie to get going with arch and a GUI.

sudo pacman -Sy ttf-dejavu ttf-liberation ttf-bitstream-vera lxde xorg xorg-video-drivers xorg-input-drivers hal gamin gnome-icon-theme tango-icon-theme openbox


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#24 2009-10-10 01:52:57

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Re: What do I do once everything has installed correctly?

       [repo-name]
       Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org
       Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Can I tell you to make sure that part is commented out in your pacman conf? That whole section is causing you errors because there is no repository called repo-name.

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