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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

My setup: dual monitors, with only 1 monitor rotated 90 degrees (via Xinerama, not TwinView); using nvidia drivers (latest 190.42); nvidia 8800 GTS 320 MB video card; Intel Q6600 processor.

My symptoms: after upgrading to the latest xorg-server 1.7.1-1, whenever I moved my mouse pointer over to the unrotated monitor's side, it would start blinking/glittering and my cpu usage would go up 100% on one of my cores (according to htop). As soon as I moved the pointer over to the rotated (portrait mode) monitor, everything would be back to normal. Strangely enough, both monitors worked fine in displaying all content/windows--no segfaults or anything; the problem (X slowdown, CPU usage 100%) only occurred when I moved my mouse pointer over to the left (unrotated) monitor. Another quirk: firefox on my portrait mode monitor would not display the context menu when I right-clicked on it (I didn't bother testing this behavior on the unrotated monitor, because of the problems stated above). (My problems seem identical to Ochi's post -> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showpos … stcount=10.)

What worked for me:

Packages that I downgraded:

xf86-input-evdev 2.2.5-1
xf86-input-keyboard 1.3.2-2
xf86-input-mouse 1.4.0-2
xf86-input-synaptics 1.1.3-1
xorg-font-utils 7.4-3
xorg-server 1.6.3.901-1
xorg-server-utils 7.4-7
xorg-utils 7.4-4
xorg-xkb-utils 7.4-2

I will eventually get around to updating them one by one to see where the point of failure it.

I downgraded the above packages and indeed my problem went away. The bug must be from the new xorg-server update. I am still using the latest nvidia drivers (190.42-1), with no problems.

It is very strange in that multiple-head setups (or perhaps rotated monitors?) are only partially affected by this bug.

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

I have an nVidia 8600M GS (it's in my laptop), and using xorg-server 1.7.1-1 and nvidia 190.42-1 everything is fine here. Is there any info I can provide that may help? Oh, I'm also running Gnome, so most of my apps are GTK.

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mangus

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From: Bologna, Italy

Registered: 2007-04-07

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

this is weird..I got reproducible segfault of the Xserver (1.7.1) with latest nvidia drivers 190.42 and a not so old
nvidia 9800gt chipset..just open  www.godsoccer.com  with a browser or a part using qt webkit engine
(arora for example) and bum! signal 11 and segfault.
firefox and chromium works fine with that link...
I'll try to recompile nvidia and nvidia-utils for what it's worth , but who's to blame? nvidia , qt , or the new server?
I use a custom bfs kernel btw

Last edited by mangus (2009-11-04 18:25:39)

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

I've nvidia 9600 gt and my problem is that 2 finger scrolling  touchpad went away after last update. Other problems related to nvidia remain that I can't use evdev & hotplugging. But I suspect some strange setting by nvidia, because non propietary driver will work flawlessly.

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Ingar

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Registered: 2009-11-04

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

I have a nvidia 8800 GTS 640M and  I'm experiencing random X crashes since the upgrade to xorg-server 1.7.1-1 and nvidia 190.42-1.
They only happen when I use gtk programs (firefox, audacity, radiant..). No weird effects, just crash and done.

djg1971

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Registered: 2008-09-11

Posts: 185

Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

For what it's worth, I've been experiencing these xorg~nvidia problems for some months now, like many others, and have posted some about it.  Earlier today I saw the following suggestion which I had never heard about before:

add this to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file:

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "IgnoreABI" "on"
EndSection

I made the edit to xorg.conf, then prepared for the downgrade procedure since I assumed I would need to execute it once again, but much to my surprise, upon reboot it actually worked.  I am running a Lenovo T61 laptop with nVidia Quadro NVS 140M (rev a1).  Everything is now up to date via pacman -Syu.

If only I could figure out why my USB external hard disk won't mount anymore I'd be set...

stuffcorpse

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Registered: 2008-10-20

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

I have a nvidia 8800 GTS 640M and  I'm experiencing random X crashes since the upgrade to xorg-server 1.7.1-1 and nvidia 190.42-1.
They only happen when I use gtk programs (firefox, audacity, radiant..). No weird effects, just crash and done.

I'm also experiencing the same problem as Ingar, with the exact same card.

pixellany

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

I'm just jumping into this and have not read everything yet.

HP Compaq 8510W, NVidia Quadro FX570

When updgrading today, X stopped working.  I had been using the "nv" driver and---before finding this thread---tried installing the latest NVidia (xx190xx).  After finding this thread, I reverted to the older xorg following one post in this thread.  Still no go with the NVidia "190" driver.
I finally got the system going by reverting the the "nv" driver.

Tentative conclusion:  There are more issues with xorg 1.7 than compatibility with the latest official NVidia drivers.

More work required, n'est-ce pas?

edited 11/5--clarification

Last edited by pixellany (2009-11-05 17:25:25)

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justtesting

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Registered: 2009-05-09

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

me too - Acer Aspire 7730, Nvidia 9600GT

xorg-server-1.7.1-1 + nvidia-190.42-1

repeated crashes when using gtk-Applications

It seems to be a problem with xorg-server, I'm still using nvidia-190 but downgraded xorg-server and everythings works nicely again.

There is an interesting patch available in the last fedora rawhide Update for xorg-server, maybe that's what we are looking for: xserver-1.7.1-window-pictures.patch

ammon

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Registered: 2008-12-11

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Did anyone try new xorg-server 1.7.1.901-1, http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra … rg-server/ 

Did it fix this problem with gtk?

mangus

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From: Bologna, Italy

Registered: 2007-04-07

Posts: 289

Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

this is weird..I got reproducible segfault of the Xserver (1.7.1) with latest nvidia drivers 190.42 and a not so old
nvidia 9800gt chipset..just open  www.godsoccer.com  with a browser or a part using qt webkit engine
(arora for example) and bum! signal 11 and segfault.
firefox and chromium works fine with that link...
I'll try to recompile nvidia and nvidia-utils for what it's worth , but who's to blame? nvidia , qt , or the new server?
I use a custom bfs kernel btw

the new xorg package seems to solve the segfault , but system becomes very laggy and I got this

[mi] EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop.

Backtrace:
0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x28) [0x45b7d8]
1: /usr/bin/X (mieqEnqueue+0x1f4) [0x455134]
2: /usr/bin/X (xf86PostMotionEventP+0xce) [0x46ddde]
3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0x7fc9bff60000+0x509f) [0x7fc9bff6509f]
4: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x64067) [0x464067]
5: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0xeffe4) [0x4effe4]
6: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7fc9e4c32000+0xe7e0) [0x7fc9e4c407e0]
7: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (0x7fc9e09e0000+0xa4a51) [0x7fc9e0a84a51]
8: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so (wfbBlt+0x1045) [0x7fc9e05ac455]
9: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so (wfbCopyNtoN+0x25e) [0x7fc9e05b01be]
10: /usr/bin/X (miCopyRegion+0x29d) [0x55852d]
11: /usr/bin/X (miDoCopy+0x44a) [0x558a3a]
12: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so (wfbCopyArea+0x4c) [0x7fc9e05af49c]
13: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so (wfb_image_from_pict+0x300) [0x7fc9e05b48e0]
14: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libwfb.so (wfbComposite+0xd4) [0x7fc9e05b4bc4]
15: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so (0x7fc9e09e0000+0x33e817) [0x7fc9e0d1e817]
16: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libxaa.so (0x7fc9c01a1000+0x52a85) [0x7fc9c01f3a85]
17: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0xab2e0) [0x4ab2e0]
18: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x11e309) [0x51e309]
19: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x11e5d5) [0x51e5d5]
20: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x11ddd6) [0x51ddd6]
21: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2fca6) [0x42fca6]
22: /usr/bin/X (MapWindow+0x153) [0x431e13]
23: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x45946) [0x445946]
24: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x46674) [0x446674]
25: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x2205c) [0x42205c]
26: /lib/libc.so.6 (__libc_start_main+0xfd) [0x7fc9e3cdc9ed]
27: /usr/bin/X (0x400000+0x21c09) [0x421c09]
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)

flamelab

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From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

Registered: 2007-12-26

Posts: 2,160

Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

The fedora patch was for the previous version. I wrote on the flyspray that without it, there is no lag.

Ingar

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From: EU Capital

Registered: 2009-11-04

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Did anyone try new xorg-server 1.7.1.901-1, http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra … rg-server/ 

Did it fix this problem with gtk?

Gtk apps seen to be working again .
I've noticed some lag too: e.g. it takes 5 seconds for the KDE run menu to appear.

ammon

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Registered: 2008-12-11

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

The fedora patch was for the previous version. I wrote on the flyspray that without it, there is no lag.

- confirmed

But one problem... nvidia powermizer is locked @ 100% all the time. This is only after this latest xserv upgrade.

quantumphaze

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2008-11-14

Posts: 175

Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Did anyone try new xorg-server 1.7.1.901-1, http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra … rg-server/ 

Did it fix this problem with gtk?

Everything was fine for me until that .901 update.

I get that "lag" that Ingar described. It's more like the X server freezes momentarily with only the cursor responding and it applies to the opening of every window. Downgrading to xorg-server-1.7.1-1 fixed it for now.

Running Kwin 4.3.3 on Nvidia 9300m (driver 190.42) x86_64

Found bug report http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17037

Last edited by quantumphaze (2009-11-08 02:56:44)

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Skripka

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Everything was fine for me until that .901 update.

I get that "lag" that Ingar described. It's more like the X server freezes momentarily with only the cursor responding and it applies to the opening of every window. Downgrading to xorg-server-1.7.1-1 fixed it for now.

Running Kwin 4.3.3 on Nvidia 9300m (driver 190.42) x86_64

Found bug report http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17037

Things were fine-ish here too.  Sometimes I'd get a X crash, but that was it.

-Syu to Xorg1.7.901...and EVERY time I click the "K" button in Vanilla KDE4.3.3, one of my cores on my CPU goes to 100%, and Xorg freezes--symptoms stay for ~15 seconds.   I can reproduce every time I click in said K button.

Latest Nvidia drivers on my GTX260, Phenom II quad, Arch 64

Last edited by Skripka (2009-11-08 05:13:12)

flamelab

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From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

It's the fedora patch that causes this. BUT:

1)With it --> no GTK crashes (like the one with Gimp) BUT with huge lag on KDE
2)Without it --> GTK crashes BUT without lag on KDE.

I think it's both Xorg-server's and Nvidia driver's fault.

Skripka

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From: 2X1280X1024

Registered: 2009-02-19

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

It's the fedora patch that causes this. BUT:

1)With it --> no GTK crashes (like the one with Gimp) BUT with huge lag on KDE
2)Without it --> GTK crashes BUT without lag on KDE.

I think it's both Xorg-server's and Nvidia driver's fault.

Allan probably had something to do with it

EDIT: Saw the bug in Flyspray and voted

Last edited by Skripka (2009-11-08 05:42:17)

quantumphaze

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Thanks to zico http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/17037#comment52785

Get xorg-server from ABS and edit the xserver-1.7.1-window-pictures.patch patch. Keep the first change and remove the later changes, keeping the last 2 lines.

- pPixmap = (*pScreen->CreatePixmap) (pScreen, width, height, pDraw->depth, 0);
+ pPixmap = fbCreatePixmap (pScreen, width, height, pDraw->depth, 0);     
     if (!pPixmap)
     return NULL;
###Delete stuff that is here###
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1.6.5.2

Fix md5sums in PKGBUILD
It wouldn't compile for me unless libgl is installed which interferes with nvidia-utils which nvidia module depends on, so stop X and [K|G]DM and pacman -d -R them (remember to reinstall if you want to have a GUI again).

I can now have a usable KDE and play with Gimp.
Please mention if it worked for you on the bug report and try to get X to crash with GTK apps also.

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Everything was fine for me until that .901 update.

I get that "lag" that Ingar described. It's more like the X server freezes momentarily with only the cursor responding and it applies to the opening of every window.

The same problem here Where can I get the previous xorg-server package?

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flamelab

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From: Athens, Hellas (Greece)

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Everything was fine for me until that .901 update.

I get that "lag" that Ingar described. It's more like the X server freezes momentarily with only the cursor responding and it applies to the opening of every window.

The same problem here Where can I get the previous xorg-server package?

Look here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=84247

thorjelly

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Registered: 2009-02-15

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

this is weird..I got reproducible segfault of the Xserver (1.7.1) with latest nvidia drivers 190.42 and a not so old
nvidia 9800gt chipset..just open  www.godsoccer.com  with a browser or a part using qt webkit engine
(arora for example) and bum! signal 11 and segfault.
firefox and chromium works fine with that link...
I'll try to recompile nvidia and nvidia-utils for what it's worth , but who's to blame? nvidia , qt , or the new server?
I use a custom bfs kernel btw

I'd just like to confirm this, I get the exact same bug. Using xorg-server-1.7.1, patched or not, webkit based browsers crash xorg when viewing certain sites.

Unrelated to the above bug, I also got the KDE freeze bug with the patched xorg-server-1.7.1.901, but the extra package was just updated to xorg-server-1.7.1.901-2 which works perfectly. (I literally just updated abs, compiled xorg-server-1.7.1.901-1 without the problem patch, and then did a pacman -Syu and suddenly xorg-server-1.7.1.901-2 was there)

Last edited by thorjelly (2009-11-08 18:05:43)

jib2

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From: Paris, France

Registered: 2009-08-13

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

xorg-server-1.7.1.901-2 doesn't solve the problem for me.

X still crashes with segfault when launching rhythmbox (GTK app) and vlc (QT one)

[Gnome. Nvidia 7300 with nvidia driver 190.42]

sean

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Registered: 2009-11-07

Posts: 5

Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

Seeing the following issues with ATI after updating my laptop:

- Random segfaults as described by others
- The lag also as described by others

Can anyone confirm this is not specific to nvidia drivers?

loafer

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Re: nvidia/nvidia-utils 190.42-1 with xorg-server 1.7.1-1 segfault

There are numerous posts with people reporting issues with ATI and intel drivers.

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