How do Archers play their music?

ugjka · 2020-12-16 18:21:17

Lately I just use the Spotify webplayer

Serum · 2020-12-17 03:14:17

Spotify. Beyond that I don't have any music downloaded, as it's all just physical (CD, vinyl, etc.).

Comrade_Stalin · 2021-03-06 00:07:21

Is MPD really worth it? For some reason I can never get it working on my system. I'd like to see what all the fuss is about, so I will struggle on. Until then, I normally use MOC. I organise all my music in a folder structure, and I like how MOC is basically a file browser. Most other music players try to organise by band and that is very annoying because I have many albums with multiple bands on them and they get all fragmented and I can never find what I'm looking for.

ratcheer · 2021-03-06 00:42:59

Spotify Linux client, Youtube, vlc.

ALSA, Pipewire, pulseeffects.

PC outputs via USB to external DAC/amplifier, then on to headphones.

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Awebb · 2021-03-06 01:02:14

I have given up on anything but folder based music libraries. As soon as more than artist per song or album is involved, it's always a dice roll whether the files are tagged correctly or the player handles it well.

@Comrade_Stalin: MPD has its use cases. I used to have a RPi in every room that started to play whatever MPD was playing on the press of a button. I also had between two and four room mates, who used a phone app to push whatever they liked into the playlist.

Today we have a bluetooth speaker and everybody has a phone.

btdmaster · 2021-03-14 18:21:50

#!/bin/sh
mpv --shuffle --start=$(shuf -i 1-100 -n 1)% ~/Music/*.mp3

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-03-14 19:05:40

Windows in QEMU/KVM running the Tidal desktop application (so I can access their MQA files) with an Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt USB DAC passed through to the VM and feeding either KLH Ultimate One headphones or Adam A77X active studio monitors. I just wish Tidal had a Linux application with MQA support. They have an Android version so it should be possible to port it over.

kokoko3k · 2021-03-15 12:20:18

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Windows in QEMU/KVM running the Tidal desktop application (so I can access their MQA files) with an Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt USB DAC passed through to the VM and feeding either KLH Ultimate One headphones or Adam A77X active studio monitors. I just wish Tidal had a Linux application with MQA support. They have an Android version so it should be possible to port it over.

Are you (or anyone!) really able to hear any difference between HiFi and Master quality or do just need the latter for audio processing work?

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Flemur · 2021-03-15 13:15:21

foobar2000

Awebb · 2021-03-15 17:04:16

kokoko3k wrote:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Windows in QEMU/KVM running the Tidal desktop application (so I can access their MQA files) with an Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt USB DAC passed through to the VM and feeding either KLH Ultimate One headphones or Adam A77X active studio monitors. I just wish Tidal had a Linux application with MQA support. They have an Android version so it should be possible to port it over.
Are you (or anyone!) really able to hear any difference between HiFi and Master quality or do just need the latter for audio processing work?

I thought religion was discouraged as a topic here :-P

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-03-15 17:08:20

kokoko3k wrote:

Are you (or anyone!) really able to hear any difference between HiFi and Master quality

Oh yes, the difference is readily apparent. I wasn't expecting it to be such a step up in quality so I am pleasantly surprised.

kokoko3k · 2021-03-16 11:25:49

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

kokoko3k wrote:
Are you (or anyone!) really able to hear any difference between HiFi and Master quality
Oh yes, the difference is readily apparent. I wasn't expecting it to be such a step up in quality so I am pleasantly surprised.

Awebb wrote:

I thought religion was discouraged as a topic here :-P

Well, never say never!

First, one have to consider that if the master was really recorded at 96khz, porting it to 44.1 requires a non-integer resample, so the quality loss is in the file itself.
(i wonder why they did not record at 88.2k if the cd-quality has always been 44.1 and why tidal itself does not offer hifi quality at 48khz; after all they don't sell audio-cds...)

As for the religion thing, I made a simple in home test with good equipement and a simple sine sweep from low to high frequencies and I would really like to be able to hear anything over (analog) 13.5/14 khz (depends on the left or right ear in use), but unfortunately that result seems pretty standard for my age.
Head_on_a_Stick: Just curiosity, have you ever tried something like that? What's your age if i can ask?

I can understand that the "quality" of the frequencies i can still reach may depend on even higher frequencies due to aliasing issues; maybe humans who can *clearly* hear (digital) 44khz can still benefit from 96khz, i've to trust them :-)
...and maybe the lower quantization error tue to the higher bits per sample could play a role for normal ears too,tho.

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Awebb · 2021-03-16 12:07:35

I was more or less kidding. Since after a series of accidents and incidents, my hearing is so bad that I have to turn on subtitles when I try to watch a movie late at night without waking up the neighbours. Before that, I was quite the audiophile.

raphaelabb · 2021-03-16 12:22:56

moc for myself, Deadbeef for the family, they aren't really fond of the terminal interface, all that from a 30Gb music folder...

ewaller · 2021-03-16 15:05:38

Awebb wrote:

I was more or less kidding. Since after a series of accidents and incidents, my hearing is so bad that I have to turn on subtitles when I try to watch a movie late at night without waking up the neighbours. Before that, I was quite the audiophile.

Nothing involving maple syrup, I hope.

In all seriousness, I am sad to learn of your loss. My dad went deaf due to loud sounds and a virus; it was hard to watch. Protect what you have left.

kokoko3k · 2021-03-16 15:38:10

ewaller wrote:

Awebb wrote:
I was more or less kidding. Since after a series of accidents and incidents, my hearing is so bad that I have to turn on subtitles when I try to watch a movie late at night without waking up the neighbours. Before that, I was quite the audiophile.
Nothing involving maple syrup, I hope.
In all seriousness, I am sad to learn of your loss. My dad went deaf due to loud sounds and a virus; it was hard to watch. Protect what you have left.

Sorry awebb, i quote the advice of ewaller.
My father has now the same problem, it was due to his "love" for hunting and shooting without protecting his ears.
If somebody is thinking about karma, he's probably right...

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-03-16 16:28:06

kokoko3k wrote:

have you ever tried something like that? What's your age if i can ask?

I'm 46. I haven't tried any tones to see how high my hearing goes (but I might now you've given me the idea) but I wouldn't think much over 10kHz would be audible for me — I've worked as a full-time motorcycle courier for the last 18 years and I can't be bothered wearing earplugs on the motorway so I've pretty much destroyed my upper frequency perception and given myself tinnitus. But the MQA files are still noticeably better than the plain "HiFi" versions I can hear via the native Linux Tidal applications

kokoko3k wrote:

I can understand that the "quality" of the frequencies i can still reach may depend on even higher frequencies due to aliasing issues

Yes indeed, the digital filter brick wall can induce ringing artefacts that extend throughout the frequency range and at any rate the temporal discrimination of the human auditory system is almost certainly more important in respect of verisimilitude than the frequencies.

Meridian issued an extensive MQA FAQ for Stereophile magazine that covers this and other points: https://www.stereophile.com/content/mqa … nd-answers

EDIT: no, not the maple syrup again!

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Awebb · 2021-03-16 17:27:39

ewaller wrote:

Protect what you have left.

I will! One ear still works enough to not be legally deaf. It all happened thanks to stress from being self-employed overlaying a number of undiagnosed conditions. It's been three years now and I have mostly adapted to my new situation. On the bright side (and on topic), I used to spend a lot of money on audio equipment and battled all operating systems to provide me with surround sound on headphones. Now a decent 2.1 desktop set and a simple soundbar with clear speakers is enough.

Roken · 2021-03-16 17:33:34

I reach for the album I want to play, put it on the turntable, start it spinning and gently lower the needle onto the lead in.

zpg443 · 2021-03-18 02:25:25

Audacious with playlists created by Archsimian.

diziet_sma · 2021-04-09 19:25:13

MPD with OpenAL output, so I can use HRTFs. (Which sound better to me by default, at least with my current headphones, than any crossfeed setup I've tried.) My brain is weird about sound, so simulating natural-sounding audio is a big deal.

For the frontend I currently use Cantata, I'm always on the lookout for new ones though. Kind of want to eventually write my own in Rust+GTK.

NullRoute · 2021-04-12 07:45:14

Why use mplayer when you can use "cmus" (https://cmus.github.io/)

Also for streaming Radio, you can use "nvlc" (https://helpmanual.io/help/nvlc/)

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-04-16 21:36:56

My Tidal trial ended so I'm trying Qobuz now. It allows for direct streaming of high resolution PCM files so I can use their web player under Linux (via Firefox) so no need for MQA or any other proprietary DRM and no need for Windows. Also upgraded to an Audiolab M-DAC+ so I can now play up to 32-bit 384kHz files (and DSD256), which is nice. Qobuz "only" has 24/192 at the moment though.

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Flemur · 2021-04-16 23:07:40

NullRoute wrote:

Why use mplayer when you can use "cmus" (https://cmus.github.io/)
Also for streaming Radio, you can use "nvlc" (https://helpmanual.io/help/nvlc/)

I mentioned foobar above, but recently have switched to cmus for online radio and deadbeef for on-disk music collection, and have been fiddling with pipewire and thenremoving pipewire and fiddling with pulseaudio as in this other post:

"Is this "bit perfect"* audio with pulseaudio?"
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic. … 8&t=347359

Summary: there was a hidden resampling in direct-to-alasa/card audio. More than sound quality, the esthetic is not having the computer do useless stuff. I'm not religious on that issue...I think...except thinking that, above a pretty low quality level, everything except speakers and headphones sounds the same, a la ABX.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2021-04-17 15:29:52

Flemur wrote:

there was a hidden resampling in direct-to-alasa/card audio

You can disable dmix by addressing the hardware directly: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ad … ive_method

Flemur wrote:

[everything except speakers and headphones sounds the same

Cloth ears

Arch Linux

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