The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Payne · 2011-10-07 12:55:43

Turris wrote:

If you're using a stock kernel the catalyst + catalyst-utils package should do the trick for you.
I Installed my driver the following way: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … repository .

Thank you for your reply
But... what is a "stock kernel"? is it the latest kernel version? I've just installed Arch and the system is up to date now.
And I've seen that "TI_Catalyst#.5Bcatalyst.5D_repository" page before but anyway, I'm going to try one more time.

PS: do you know the difference between "catalyst.apocalypsus.net"and AUR? I've just got confused

Last edited by Payne (2011-10-07 13:00:36)

Payne · 2011-10-07 12:58:14

XeCycle wrote:

Hi I'm using 11.9 with no issues.
But I want to say --- talking all those here is messy, you see? We've got such a long thread already, which is difficult to find out useful information inside. Why don't we setup a mailing list? At least Google Groups can do.

It's really very long...
BTW, could you please tell me how did you install the 11.9?

ChemBro · 2011-10-07 15:26:46

XeCycle wrote:

We've got such a long thread already, which is difficult to find out useful information inside.

And which useful information will that be?

atanas · 2011-10-07 16:26:34

@Payne - stock kernel in meaning the current kernel in Archlinux [core] repository.

Turris · 2011-10-08 10:39:20

I see linux-3.0.6-2 is available in core. Is this compatible with Catalyst 11.8?

Gillian00 · 2011-10-08 10:43:00

it is

Turris · 2011-10-08 13:58:06

Gillian00 wrote:

it is

And how does one find that out without asking it on the forums?

Vi0L0 · 2011-10-08 15:49:58

Turris wrote:

Gillian00 wrote:
it is
And how does one find that out without asking it on the forums?

$ pacman -Si catalyst
Repository : catalyst
Name : catalyst
Version : 11.8-1
URL : http://www.ati.amd.com
Licenses : custom
Groups : None
Provides : None
Depends On : linux>=3.0 linux<3.1 catalyst-utils
Optional Deps : None
Conflicts With : catalyst-test nvidia xf86-video-ati xf86-video-radeonhd ati-dri
Replaces : None
Download Size : 626.47 K
Installed Size : 4144.00 K
Packager : Vi0L0 <vi0l093@gmail.com>
Architecture : x86_64
Build Date : Wed Aug 17 22:37:40 2011
MD5 Sum : cb0b3adb2484a5198c66aef313f7f039
Description : AMD/ATI Catalyst drivers for kernel26. fglrx kernel module only

"pacman -Si" will get information from repository
"pacman -Qi" will get information from locally installed package

It's really happening rarely that you need to update catalyst after smaller linux update (smaller = 3.0.5 -> 3.0.6, bigger = 3.0 -> 3.1)

XeCycle wrote:

Hi I'm using 11.9 with no issues.
But I want to say --- talking all those here is messy, you see? We've got such a long thread already, which is difficult to find out useful information inside. Why don't we setup a mailing list? At least Google Groups can do.

Important informations should be stored on Archwiki

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Vi0L0 · 2011-10-12 06:36:13

i can see that xorg-server 1.11.1 has landed in [extra], so just to remind: please use [xorg110] repo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … positories

nemolivier · 2011-10-13 06:48:20

@Vi0L0 is there a reason for this catalyst-specific packages not to be in the [catalyst] repository ?

punkrockguy318 · 2011-10-13 06:59:58

Vi0L0 wrote:

i can see that xorg-server 1.11.1 has landed in [extra], so just to remind: please use [xorg110] repo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … positories

Thanks for the heads up. Really appreciated before I pacman -Syu'd into a broken system. Cheers!!

snack · 2011-10-13 07:08:03

punkrockguy318 wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
i can see that xorg-server 1.11.1 has landed in [extra], so just to remind: please use [xorg110] repo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … positories
Thanks for the heads up. Really appreciated before I pacman -Syu'd into a broken system. Cheers!!

That wouldn't happen. Since catalyst-utils currently requires xorg-server<1.11.0 pacman would have refused to upgrade when detecting xorg-server 1.11 in [extra].

punkrockguy318 · 2011-10-13 08:39:19

snack wrote:

punkrockguy318 wrote:
Vi0L0 wrote:
i can see that xorg-server 1.11.1 has landed in [extra], so just to remind: please use [xorg110] repo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … positories
Thanks for the heads up. Really appreciated before I pacman -Syu'd into a broken system. Cheers!!
That wouldn't happen. Since catalyst-utils currently requires xorg-server<1.11.0 pacman would have refused to upgrade when detecting xorg-server 1.11 in [extra].

Ah that's awesome! Good to know. I'm always a little worried since catalyst isn't supported, but that makes sense.

Thanks!

Mr.Elendig · 2011-10-13 19:12:06

punkrockguy318 wrote:

Vi0L0 wrote:
i can see that xorg-server 1.11.1 has landed in [extra], so just to remind: please use [xorg110] repo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … positories
Thanks for the heads up. Really appreciated before I pacman -Syu'd into a broken system. Cheers!!

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57205

You should read the pacman output and a warning light should go off in your head, since catalyst almost always breaks on new xorg versions.

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punkrockguy318 · 2011-10-13 20:31:28

Mr.Elendig wrote:

punkrockguy318 wrote:
Vi0L0 wrote:
i can see that xorg-server 1.11.1 has landed in [extra], so just to remind: please use [xorg110] repo:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AT … positories
Thanks for the heads up. Really appreciated before I pacman -Syu'd into a broken system. Cheers!!
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57205
You should read the pacman output and a warning light should go off in your head, since catalyst almost always breaks on new xorg versions.

Agreed, people should definitely do this.

Vi0L0 · 2011-10-13 21:14:53

nemolivier wrote:

@Vi0L0 is there a reason for this catalyst-specific packages not to be in the [catalyst] repository ?

Yeah, xorg-server was in the past a part of [catalyst] repo, although i found seperate [xorg*] repos:
- easier in maintanance;
- cleaner (with it [catalyst] repo is not that messy, especially when you will look at it via http);
- more logical.
Since some time catalyst is supporting various xserver' versions - so users could actually go back to ie. xserver 1.9 if they have problems with ie. 1.10 version.
There is many AUR users, so for them separate [xorg*] repo is a better choice, i believe - ie.they don't like to use unofficial repos because they don't trust them, so they preffer AUR and building packages on their own system, they can use [xorg*] repo which contains only packages copied from [extra] repo, or they could list this repo and blacklist packages which are the parts of this repo.
Plus i believe that smaller is better than big - here i mean "modularization" as in software developing - writing a lot of small programs is better than writing one big program, you know: streams, unix philosophy, KISS etc.

DarksideEE7 · 2011-10-13 21:42:24

Does anyone know when xorg 1.11 will be supported by catalyst?

ChemBro · 2011-10-13 21:49:56

DarksideEE7 wrote:

Does anyone know when xorg 1.11 will be supported by catalyst?

Maybe this month, maybe the next? Who knows. And those, who use the beta-drivers for testing aren't allowed to talk about it (NDA).

DarksideEE7 · 2011-10-13 21:56:30

ChemBro wrote:

DarksideEE7 wrote:
Does anyone know when xorg 1.11 will be supported by catalyst?
Maybe this month, maybe the next? Who knows. And those, who use the beta-drivers for testing aren't allowed to talk about it (NDA).

Depending on how long xorg 1.11 support takes I may just switch to the old xorg repo and continue to update my system. Right now I'm sort of in system update limbo.

kjslag · 2011-10-15 02:50:35

I got this while trying to upgrade

:: xf86-video-fbdev and xorg-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.10.99.902). Remove xorg-server? [y/N]

Does xf86-video-fbdev need to be added to xorg110?

my /etc/pacman.conf:

[xorg110]
Server = http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/xorg110/$arch

[catalyst]
Server = http://catalyst.apocalypsus.net/repo/catalyst/$arch

#[testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[community-testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

# If you want to run 32 bit applications on your x86_64 system,
# enable the multilib repositories as required here.

#[multilib-testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[multilib]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

Vi0L0 · 2011-10-15 09:38:29

@kjslag:
i have added previous release of xf86-video-fbdev package into the repo, should be fine now.

kjslag wrote:

Does xf86-video-fbdev need to be added to xorg110?

I dont't have this package installed on my system, although if anybody want some x-related package to be added - feel free to ask.

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2011-10-15 10:19:48)

vinceb · 2011-10-16 18:12:45

[vince@v ~]$ sudo pacman -Syu
Password:
:: Synchronizing package databases...
xorg110 3.3K 1719.9K/s 00:00:00 [########################################] 100%
catalyst is up to date
core 61.2K 119.2K/s 00:00:01 [########################################] 100%
extra 840.4K 529.9K/s 00:00:02 [########################################] 100%
community 475.3K 379.2K/s 00:00:01 [########################################] 100%
multilib is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...
:: xf86-video-apm and xorg-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.11.0). Remove xorg-server? [y/N]

Is this safe to do? I wanted to make sure before I hit 'y' and break my system lol.

Vi0L0 · 2011-10-16 19:34:56

if you are using this apm module then it's not safe
i already put older version of this package into [xorg110] repo

btw: your system is not that easy to brake, its not *******

Last edited by Vi0L0 (2011-10-16 19:35:51)

vinceb · 2011-10-16 20:58:06

i do not use it...i saw its for alliance promotion....i have radeon 4870

zanardi84 · 2011-10-17 16:09:43

Same problem on my desktop, Radeon 5770.
I don't use testing or multilib repos, only standard ones + catalyst and archlinuxfr.
Now I'm using opensource driver, but maybe I have no power saving features and in my opinion it's not safe for my Radeon health (I'm using gnome 3 fallback mode without compiz.. shell is ok, but I don't like it on desktop pc).

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