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#1 2012-01-30 19:37:28

student975
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package log: delay and CLI

For example, just now package "virtuoso" has 6.1.4-2 version, while this page

http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/ … &showmsg=1

shows last log message for 6.1.4-1 version.

1. Is it just ordinary technological time gap?

2. How to see last log message for given package using CLI?


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#2 2012-01-30 20:03:44

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

1. I hope so.
2. Some packages have changelogs you can view with 'pacman -Qc' e.g.

[karol@black ~]$ pacman -Qc htop
2011-11-22  Angel Velasquez <angvp@archlinux.org>
    * Version bump, patches were included upstream, so removed from our package.

2011-10-19  Andrea Scarpino <andrea@archlinux.org>
    * Enable cgroup support (FS#26155)
    * Add lsof and strace optional depends (FS#25778)
    * Fix crash when column is less than 40 (closes FS#25823)

2011-05-17  Angel Velasquez <angvp@archlinux.org>
	* Added patch to fix --sort-key (closes FS#23224)

2009-09-21  Eric Belanger  <eric@archlinux.org>

	* htop 0.8.3-1
	* Upstream update
	* Built with vserver and openvz support (close FS#12755)

2008-12-09  Alexander Fehr  <pizzapunk gmail com>

	* htop-0.8.1-1:
	* New upstream release
	* New maintainer
	* Added patch to fix FS#12235
	* Enabled Unicode support
	* Added ChangeLog

Few maintainers write them.

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#3 2012-01-30 20:10:42

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

'pacman -Qc' shows something different rather svntogit's log does. Say, 'pacman -Qc' shows nothing for 'virtuoso' package, while svntogit log shows something smile


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#4 2012-01-30 20:14:00

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

student975 wrote:

'pacman -Qc' shows something different rather svntogit's log does. Say, 'pacman -Qc' shows nothing for 'virtuoso' package, while svntogit log shows something smile

That's because the 'pacman -Qc' changelogs are written by hand by the maintainers. Few of them bother. svn commits and changelogs are a better way of keeping up with the changes.

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#5 2012-01-30 20:28:55

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

Yes, but how to extract last messages for some given package?


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#6 2012-01-30 20:36:22

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#7 2012-01-30 20:43:33

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

No, I haven't (and am afraid will not as far as am not shell expert).

I'm curious how many archers ask "why" when this or that packaged was rebuilt (I don't mean upstream upgrade) smile

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#8 2012-01-30 20:47:30

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#9 2012-01-30 20:54:44

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

Too few... smile


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#10 2012-01-31 11:27:43

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

The svn changelog has already been updated.

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#11 2012-01-31 11:37:29

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

Yes, and my guess is: making this message ("Add two useful clients (FS#28173)" at this particular case) quickly accessible via simple CLI command  would be handy for all archers (including the Arch team) during manipulating with packages.

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#12 2012-01-31 12:24:31

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

Users can take time to research every update and will likely need a web browser to do it, a text-only one may do, but I don't see how this info can be fully provided by pacman.
In this case, I'd like to read FS#28173 and it does include another link so ...

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#13 2012-02-01 21:46:14

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#14 2012-02-01 22:13:17

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

student975 wrote:

Yes, and my guess is: making this message ("Add two useful clients (FS#28173)" at this particular case) quickly accessible via simple CLI command  would be handy for all archers (including the Arch team) during manipulating with packages.

The changes you are talking about are committed to SVN trunk. They accumulate until a new package is released. So 1 change /= pkgel+1, and there is no practical way to attach all of them to a given pkg upgrade. What you are asking about is changelog which you can see with pacman -Qc <pkg>. However, not every package has such a file, e.g.:

$ pacman -Qc exim | wc -l
30
$ pacman -Qc pacman
error: no changelog available for 'pacman'.


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#15 2012-02-01 23:01:32

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

Fine, thanks!
I have started the thread just two days later pkgcl was made - earth information fields related magic definitely takes place smile

Leonid.I wrote:

What you are asking about is changelog which you can see with pacman -Qc <pkg>

I'm asking about commit log (see svntogit example above).


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#16 2012-02-02 00:01:32

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Re: package log: delay and CLI

Thanks for the advertising big_smile

If anyone has feature requests or bugs, pm me or open it on github. I really just whipped this up in an afternoon or so after seeing this post from Allan, so I'm sure it's not perfect.

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