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qwerty

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Registered: 2004-12-17

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Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I've had the same problem but i've found somewhere on this forum the solution, just add dbus and hal (in this order) to your rc.conf (in the DAEMONS array) and kde will start without any problem. It worked for me, i hope it'll work for u too, anyway i'm gonna look for the thread in which i've read this and i'm gonna post it here.

C ya

deft

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Registered: 2005-03-14

Posts: 79

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I updated kdebase yesterday and since then every time I reboot and kde starts I get that "kded" crash message.. like 10 times it crashes
Unfortunately I have no backtrace atm

Yep, that's exactly what I've found aswell, and with the same kdebase update - I can't get the back trace either. If I find anything I'll post back.

deft

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Registered: 2005-03-14

Posts: 79

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

After having a brief look around, one "hack" which appears to have worked is simply disabling:

KDED Media manager
KDED Remote base url notifier
KDED System base url notifier

on the Service manager panel in the KDE Control Centre - not sure whether there's anything in that, but it appears to have circumvented the issue at least on one of my Arch installs.

IceRAM

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From: Bucharest, Romania

Registered: 2004-03-04

Posts: 772

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Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

Hmm.. I don't have such problems. Upgrade of kdebase was with no problems.

I only have KMilo service disabled since I manage my keys using a custom Xmodmap and xbindkeys.

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VLegacy

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Registered: 2005-01-29

Posts: 43

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I also received the kded crash message upon logging into KDE after upgrading recently. The message started popping up right away and continued doing so constantly until I logged out. I added dbus and hal to rc.conf's daemon array as qwerty suggested, and all seems well.

deft

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Registered: 2005-03-14

Posts: 79

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I've just updated kdebase to 3.4.1-3 - seems ok so far

bpisciot

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From: Flyover Land

Registered: 2004-12-16

Posts: 78

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

...and for me.  I updated everything, including QT, made sure dbus and hal were present in rc.conf, and rebooted the machine.  I've had KDE running for many hours now with no sign of a kwin crash.  I'm reasonably optimistic that the problem is now solved.

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lucke

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From: Poland

Registered: 2004-11-30

Posts: 4,018

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

Hym, aside from kwin crashing on startup after fiddling with xorg.conf, which doesn't haunt me anymore, I seem to have other issue with kwin, probably related to gtk-qt-engine - with gtk-qt-engine installed/enabled GTK apps occasionally seem to cause all the borders to disappear, making my desktop unusable. The problem seems to disappear when I'm not using gtk-qt-engine, but unfortunately GTK apps tend to scare me off then ;-) Anyone with similar issues?

jackmetal

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From: US

Registered: 2005-06-13

Posts: 164

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I'm definitely having the same problems.  I haven't narrowed it down to what's causing it though.  I've had a fresh startup into KDE come up without borders once..  I restarted 'again' and they came back.  Other times they just disappear as I'm working in a Konsole or something.  Strange!!

all the borders to disappear, making my desktop unusable.

Anyone with similar issues?

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deft

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Registered: 2005-03-14

Posts: 79

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

Hym, aside from kwin crashing on startup after fiddling with xorg.conf, which doesn't haunt me anymore, I seem to have other issue with kwin, probably related to gtk-qt-engine - with gtk-qt-engine installed/enabled GTK apps occasionally seem to cause all the borders to disappear, making my desktop unusable. The problem seems to disappear when I'm not using gtk-qt-engine, but unfortunately GTK apps tend to scare me off then ;-) Anyone with similar issues?

Yep, I've noticed similar things with the apps border disappearing and the app being confined to the bottom right hand corner of the screen - happens sporadically.

Also noticed with kdebase 3.4.1-4 a minor kwin crash error message on shutdown at the moment. (that kded startup issue seems to have been sorted since 3.4.1-3 though)

xirus

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Registered: 2002-12-01

Posts: 113

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I have the same problem of disappearing borders, it always seems to happen when I'm in opera -> I do something in opera, suddenly that window completely disappears and the others loose their borders and can't be clicked anymore, so a relogin in kde is required (=not fun)

VLegacy

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Registered: 2005-01-29

Posts: 43

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I also received the kded crash message upon logging into KDE after upgrading recently. The message started popping up right away and continued doing so constantly until I logged out. I added dbus and hal to rc.conf's daemon array as qwerty suggested, and all seems well.

This evening I tried removing dbus and hal from rc.conf, and kde is running fine without them. I guess it's as deft said.

VLegacy

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Registered: 2005-01-29

Posts: 43

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I had that happen to me a couple of times. I didn't connect it to Opera then, but I believe I was using it everytime it happened. All the crashes happened relatively close together after a certain date (I can't remember when), so it seems like something must have changed. Perhaps a patch to Opera itself broke it, or an upgrade of some software it interacted with.

jerrym

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From: Kannapolis, NC

Registered: 2005-07-08

Posts: 60

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I've had the same problem but i've found somewhere on this forum the solution, just add dbus and hal (in this order) to your rc.conf (in the DAEMONS array) and kde will start without any problem. It worked for me, i hope it'll work for u too, anyway i'm gonna look for the thread in which i've read this and i'm gonna post it here.

C ya

This worked for me too

this worked for me also. added dbus and hal in that order on the daemons line of rc.conf before kdm and no kwin crash

i did a full install from .7 and did a pacman -Syu then installed kde

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sweiss

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Registered: 2004-02-16

Posts: 635

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I just had that KWin crash on startup issue myself. I don't think it was package related, I just backed up all the .kde/share/config/kwin* files and removed them. Seems to have solved the issue.

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FJ

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From: Ontario, Canada

Registered: 2005-03-17

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Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

I haven't had this problem at all, until just now.  There was a power failure for like 2 seconds and my apc unit (using apcupsd package) decided to shutdown the system thinking it had 5% power available even though it had 100%---but that's a problem for another post, anyway.  When I booted up again I kept getting kwin crashes on startup.  The solution was to boot with a blank session.

I'm running kdebase 3.4.1-4.  DBus/Hal are in their proper places.

jerrym

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From: Kannapolis, NC

Registered: 2005-07-08

Posts: 60

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

i did that also, told kde to use an empty session when starting, but the kwin crashes came back. i have solved this going back to qt -7 and also on another computer that still has qt -8 i changed themes from plastik to keramik. not sure what is causing it or solving it

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big_gie

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Registered: 2005-01-19

Posts: 637

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

kwin is crashing since 4 days and I think my problem was related to keyboard.

The crash seemed to always occured the first time I was typing. So I went to the control center and explicitly set the keyboard mapping, canadian enhanced. No more crash right now... crossing my fingers!

big_gie

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Registered: 2005-01-19

Posts: 637

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

The crash is back...:(
After the crash, executing kwin will give a working session, and kwin doesn't crash until the next loging.

jerrym

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From: Kannapolis, NC

Registered: 2005-07-08

Posts: 60

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

have upgraded everything from testing and no more crashes. using kde 3.4.2 and qt 3.3.4-12 and opera 8.01

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deft

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Registered: 2005-03-14

Posts: 79

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

Yep, I've moved to kdebase 3.4.2 - everything's been fine so far - no probs (pulled in the lot from testing) -

soloport

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Registered: 2005-03-01

Posts: 442

Re: KDE kwin crash on startup

As others may have pointed out, earlier, my most recent kde crashes seemed to be network related.  KDE kept crashing on me all morning, today.  Then I discovered I had not setup my network properly (should look at boot messages more often).  It had failed at start-up.  Switching from DHCP (home environment) to static IP (test-lab environment) made the crashes vanish.