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#1 2011-12-26 23:09:47

ioos
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Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

Ok, so I know that I can make it, but can I release it in the app store (for free)? Can I use the name? What about the logo? I'm sure this is information that's available, but I must not be searching on the correct terms. Can someone please point me in the right direction?

To provide some context, I'm just getting into Android development and would hopefully be an easy enough first app. (I've already made a Wikipedia reader for myself.) Also, I know that you can just point the browser to the wiki, but hardware integration is nice. Plus it seems like the times that I really need to use the wiki (something big is broken) I end up accessing it from my phone. It seems like a natural fit.

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#2 2011-12-26 23:17:41

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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

A assume you have seen Arch's trademark policy


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#3 2011-12-26 23:41:31

ioos
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

That's what I was looking for! It's clear that I would need to include the "TM" if the logo is used, but I'm having trouble determining if I can use the logo.

"you may use the trademark in a way which indicates the intent of your product"

This means that I can use the name "Arch Linux Wiki Reader", correct? I can make sure that the user understands that it's not an official application.

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#4 2011-12-27 00:11:17

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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

ioos wrote:

This means that I can use the name "Arch Linux Wiki Reader", correct? I can make sure that the user understands that it's not an official application.

Although I moderate the Arch Linux forums, and my actions reflect on Arch Linux, I am not in a position to speak on behalf of Arch Linux.  That said; Yes, I think your interpretation is correct.  In making that assertion, I qualify that with your statement that the project would be free.  In this context of free, I assume you mean non-commercial.  Of course, free, as in freedom would be better, but I don't want to start channeling RMS. 

IANAL. I look forward to seeing the app.


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#5 2011-12-29 20:27:46

MorningWood
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

I just want to say that I cannot wait to see this app!

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#6 2012-01-23 21:22:09

twelveeighty
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

MorningWood wrote:

I just want to say that I cannot wait to see this app!

+1

Is there an update on this, or are we just too impatient?

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#7 2012-01-24 03:27:16

MikeEnIke
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

Yea, I would love to see this.

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#8 2012-02-02 01:09:51

ioos
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

The update is that I haven't made much progress on it yet. The problem is that unlike Wikipedia, our wiki doesn't have a mobile site. It's a lot easier to start with a stripped down site. However, now that I see there's some interest, I'll get to work on figuring it out.

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#9 2012-02-02 03:26:41

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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

If you want a stripped down version, take a look at the arch-wiki-docs package.  Applying custom CSS would go a long way towards 'mobilizing' the layout.

And if you want to see how to really strip it down and make the whole thing fit in 12MB, take a look at arch-wiki-lite.

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#10 2012-02-03 04:28:40

ioos
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

Thanks. It hadn't occurred to me to download the wiki and make the app available offline. That might work... Although I would probably have to use the lite version to keep it small enough. keenerd, did you create the lite docs? Can I redistribute the contents of that package?

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#11 2012-02-04 00:40:08

keenerd
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

The light version is the same as the normal offline version, same licensing.  But you probably don't want to reuse -lite, because it is laid out for easy reading in the shell.  No links, no styling, formatted for fixed-width fonts.  It would be a real pain on a touch screen phone.

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#12 2012-02-04 01:26:45

karol
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

keenerd wrote:

It would be a real pain on a touch screen phone.

You could name it 'hArchcore version lite' ;P

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#13 2012-02-04 22:51:31

ioos
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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

keenerd wrote:

The light version is the same as the normal offline version, same licensing.  But you probably don't want to reuse -lite, because it is laid out for easy reading in the shell.  No links, no styling, formatted for fixed-width fonts.  It would be a real pain on a touch screen phone.

I was thinking of a console theme. Give it that "Arch Linux" feel wink

The largest problem would be adding links. That might be a deal breaker

Otherwise, I'm thinking maybe I could compress the wiki-docs then pull each individual file as it's needed.

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#14 2012-02-05 12:48:59

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Re: Can I make an Archlinux Wiki Android app?

I think you should develop a version for inclusion in the apple app store and change $10 for it wink


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