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#1 2005-08-04 20:00:02

ozar
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rxvt-unicode

Yeah, someone else suggested urxvt on another forum and I've been thinking about moving to it.  Thanks for the suggestion.


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#2 2005-08-04 20:15:17

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Gullible Jones wrote:

URxvt is a vt100 terminal emulator - things like vim's syntax highlighting don't work in it.

that's absolutely not true

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#3 2005-08-04 20:58:26

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Re: rxvt-unicode

http://software.schmorp.de/

It's a rxvt clone.  rxvt is a vt100 emulator... but just because it's based on a vt100, doesn't mean they can't add features... I mean, vt100 didn't support utf8 or transparency or Xft support either...

the best feature though is:

Daemon mode: one daemon can open multiple windows on multiple displays, which improves memory usage and startup time considerably.

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#4 2005-08-04 21:00:36

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Doesn't change the fact that it won't support vim's syntax highlighting.

Edit: I might as well say here that true tinting gets rid of the other problems with transparency, aterm windows going opaque and stuff... However, it's also a heck of a lot slower than it was in the old version of aterm.

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#5 2005-08-04 21:08:21

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Gullible Jones wrote:

Doesn't change the fact that it won't support vim's syntax highlighting.

Ummm, yes it does.  I'll get you a screen shot when I get home.

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#6 2005-08-04 23:00:50

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Re: rxvt-unicode

urxvt has been great for me - switched ages ago.  Neotuli hosts the stable version in the AUR and i still keep cvs builds in my [dibble] repo but recently development has died down enough for them to be pretty boring

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#7 2005-08-05 00:11:02

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Gullible Jones wrote:

URxvt is a vt100 terminal emulator - things like vim's syntax highlighting don't work in it.

Hey, GJ... just wanted to let you know I've downloaded it and like prakture said above, color syntax in vim works fine.  I'm gonna play around with this a bit more even though aterm has been working well.  I really like the fonts options available in urxvt.


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#8 2005-08-05 00:42:37

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Okay...

.config/openbox/rc.xml in aterm:
term12qj.th.png

and in urxvt:
term29xp.th.png

Big, fat difference...

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#9 2005-08-05 01:31:10

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Hey, Gullible, I've got nice color in vim while using urxvt.  Maybe it's something not set right in your .Xdefaults.  I'm pretty sure I'm gonna stick with urxvt and give up aterm for at least a while.  If I get a chance, I'll post a screenshot.  I think phrakture said he is going to post one, too.

Snowman wrote:

Does anyone else get these messages?

Yes, Snowman, I get them, too.  Never had them before this latest upgrade, though.


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#10 2005-08-05 02:11:43

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Here ya go, Gullible - urxvt and vim color at work:

screenshot7va.th.jpg


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#11 2005-08-05 04:52:50

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Yep, I get it... But there is *nothing* concerning urxvt in my Xdefaults. Maybe I have to enable some option? (Haven't found any in the man page, should look again...)

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#12 2005-08-05 05:55:25

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Re: rxvt-unicode

While we're talking about URxvt; when I installed the community package for rxvt-unicode, it didn't install a terminfo file in /usr/share/terminfo/r and this is causing me problems.

Maybe this is also why GJ is having problems?  Where would I/he get this file?

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#13 2005-08-05 09:12:25

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Gullible - I can;t believe you would be so disbelieving - did you think phrakture was lying? roll

Make sure you are not using any -fg switches

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#14 2005-08-05 13:47:40

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Re: rxvt-unicode

DTW & Phrakture: Sorry...

Anyway, no, I am not using any -fg options.

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#15 2005-08-05 14:07:07

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Re: rxvt-unicode

weird - i can't stop it showing vim syntax - i tried for about ten mins!

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#16 2005-08-05 15:36:59

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Gullible Jones wrote:

Yep, I get it... But there is *nothing* concerning urxvt in my Xdefaults. Maybe I have to enable some option? (Haven't found any in the man page, should look again...)

It's your terminfo setting... do an "echo $TERM" when running urxvt

because that isn't set, I'm going to assume that your Xdefaults setup set's your aterm terminal name to xterm-color or something like that, and it is the reason colors work in aterm.

just add 'export TERM=xterm-color' to your bashrc or something

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#17 2005-08-05 15:43:39

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Re: rxvt-unicode

dibblethewrecker wrote:

weird - i can't stop it showing vim syntax - i tried for about ten mins!

$ TERM=vt100 urxvt

that should work....

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#18 2005-08-05 16:11:31

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Okay Phrakture...

For aterm:

[proteus@localhost ~]$ echo $TERM
rxvt

For urxvt:

[proteus@localhost ~]$ echo $TERM
rxvt-unicode

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#19 2005-08-05 16:18:32

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Re: rxvt-unicode

GJ, I've had the same problems with color as you, but if I set my urxvt*termName: xterm-color in .Xdefaults, everything works well.

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#20 2005-08-05 16:40:12

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Re: rxvt-unicode

Gullible Jones wrote:

Okay Phrakture...

For aterm:

[proteus@localhost ~]$ echo $TERM
rxvt

For urxvt:

[proteus@localhost ~]$ echo $TERM
rxvt-unicode

I'm going to venture a guess and say the rxvt-unicode termcap entry isn't installed... just switch it to rxvt if that works for aterm.

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#21 2005-08-05 16:56:20

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Re: rxvt-unicode

I do the same as Cerebral and put

mrxvt*termName: xterm-color

in .Xdefaults for all of my terminals (just substitute mrxvt with aterm, urxvt, etc..)


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#22 2005-08-05 17:04:09

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Re: rxvt-unicode

jackmetal wrote:

I do the same as Cerebral and put

mrxvt*termName: xterm-color

in .Xdefaults for all of my terminals (just substitute mrxvt with aterm, urxvt, etc..)

same here - check my Xdefaults

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#23 2005-08-05 17:24:09

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Re: rxvt-unicode

I'm being a nitpick here, but xterm-color is officially a bad habit.


One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero,
they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs.

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#24 2005-08-05 17:30:20

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Re: rxvt-unicode

citral wrote:

I'm being a nitpick here, but xterm-color is officially a bad habit.

I don't mind nitpicking!  If it helps me get a better config. :-)

I set mine all to rxvt and color still seems to work fine.  What is the 'recommended' term to use if xterm-color isn't good to use?


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#25 2005-08-05 17:40:28

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Re: rxvt-unicode

phrakture wrote:

I'm going to venture a guess and say the rxvt-unicode termcap entry isn't installed... just switch it to rxvt if that works for aterm.

As I said earlier in the thread, if Gullible Jones installed the community package for urxvt, it does not install a terminfo file in /usr/share/terminfo/r like it apparently ought to.

$TERM=rxvt works fine for me, and is probably more accurate than xterm-color for rxvt-based terminals, I suppose.  tongue

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