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#1 2005-08-17 11:54:13

fluke
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From: Shaoguan Univ., PRC
Registered: 2005-08-12
Posts: 241
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Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

This is my kde err:

xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
xset:  unable to open display ""
xset:  unable to open display ""
xset:  unable to open display ""
xsetroot:  unable to open display ''
startkde: Starting up...
startkde: Running kpersonalizer...
kwin: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server

when i start other wms like openbox, fluxbox, they return:
cannot open display ''

I can only run xfce4, and I think my xorg.conf is correct as you can see below:

Section "ServerLayout"
        Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
        Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
# Serial Mouse not detected
# USB Mouse not detected
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
        Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"  "true"

EndSection

Section "Files"
        RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
        Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
        Load  "GLcore"
        Load  "dbe"
        Load  "dri"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
        Load  "type1"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
        Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
        Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option "XkbLayout" ""
        Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "Microsoft"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
        Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
        Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents"  "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier      "USB Mouse"
        Driver          "mouse"
        Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
        Option          "SendCoreEvents"        "true"
        Option          "Protocol"              "IMPS/2"
        Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
        Option          "Buttons"               "5"
EndSection

# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier "Monitor0"
                Option "DPMS" "true"
#       HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
        HorizSync    28.0 - 71.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
        VertRefresh  50.0 - 160.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#       VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
        #  Default modes distilled from
        #      "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
        #       Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
        #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
        # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        ModeLine "640x350"    31.5  640  672  736  832    350  382  385  445 +hsync -vsync
        # 640x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        ModeLine "640x400"    31.5  640  672  736  832    400  401  404  445 -hsync +vsync
        # 720x400 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        ModeLine "720x400"    35.5  720  756  828  936    400  401  404  446 -hsync +vsync
        # 640x480 @ 60Hz (Industry standard) hsync: 31.5kHz
        ModeLine "640x480"    25.2  640  656  752  800    480  490  492  525 -hsync -vsync
        # 640x480 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        ModeLine "640x480"    31.5  640  664  704  832    480  489  491  520 -hsync -vsync
        # 640x480 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.5kHz
        ModeLine "640x480"    31.5  640  656  720  840    480  481  484  500 -hsync -vsync
        # 640x480 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 43.3kHz
        ModeLine "640x480"    36.0  640  696  752  832    480  481  484  509 -hsync -vsync
        # 800x600 @ 56Hz (VESA) hsync: 35.2kHz
        ModeLine "800x600"    36.0  800  824  896 1024    600  601  603  625 +hsync +vsync
        # 800x600 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        ModeLine "800x600"    40.0  800  840  968 1056    600  601  605  628 +hsync +vsync
        # 800x600 @ 72Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.1kHz
        ModeLine "800x600"    50.0  800  856  976 1040    600  637  643  666 +hsync +vsync
        # 800x600 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 46.9kHz
        ModeLine "800x600"    49.5  800  816  896 1056    600  601  604  625 +hsync +vsync
        # 800x600 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 53.7kHz
        ModeLine "800x600"    56.3  800  832  896 1048    600  601  604  631 +hsync +vsync
        # 1024x768i @ 43Hz (industry standard) hsync: 35.5kHz
        ModeLine "1024x768"   44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264    768  768  776  817 +hsync +vsync Interlace
        # 1024x768 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 48.4kHz
        ModeLine "1024x768"   65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344    768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync
        # 1024x768 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 56.5kHz
        ModeLine "1024x768"   75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328    768  771  777  806 -hsync -vsync
        # 1024x768 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
        ModeLine "1024x768"   78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312    768  769  772  800 +hsync +vsync
        # 1024x768 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 68.7kHz
        ModeLine "1024x768"   94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376    768  769  772  808 +hsync +vsync
        # 1152x864 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 67.5kHz
        ModeLine "1152x864"  108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600    864  865  868  900 +hsync +vsync
        # 1280x960 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 60.0kHz
        ModeLine "1280x960"  108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800    960  961  964 1000 +hsync +vsync
        # 1280x960 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 85.9kHz
        ModeLine "1280x960"  148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728    960  961  964 1011 +hsync +vsync
        # 1280x1024 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 64.0kHz
        ModeLine "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688   1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
        # 1280x1024 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 80.0kHz
        ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688   1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
        # 1280x1024 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 91.1kHz
        ModeLine "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728   1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
        # 1600x1200 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 75.0kHz
        ModeLine "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        # 1600x1200 @ 65Hz (VESA) hsync: 81.3kHz
        ModeLine "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        # 1600x1200 @ 70Hz (VESA) hsync: 87.5kHz
        ModeLine "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        # 1600x1200 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 93.8kHz
        ModeLine "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        # 1600x1200 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
        ModeLine "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160   1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        # 1792x1344 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 83.6kHz
        ModeLine "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448   1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
        # 1792x1344 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 106.3kHz
        ModeLine "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456   1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
        # 1856x1392 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 86.3kHz
        ModeLine "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528   1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
        # 1856x1392 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
        ModeLine "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560   1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
        # 1920x1440 @ 60Hz (VESA) hsync: 90.0kHz
        ModeLine "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600   1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
        # 1920x1440 @ 75Hz (VESA) hsync: 112.5kHz
        ModeLine "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640   1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
        # Additional modelines
        ModeLine "1800x1440"  230    1800 1896 2088 2392  1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
        ModeLine "1800x1440"  250    1800 1896 2088 2392  1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
        # Extended modelines with GTF timings
        # 640x480 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 50.90 kHz; pclk: 43.16 MHz
        ModeLine "640x480"  43.16  640 680 744 848  480 481 484 509  -HSync +Vsync
        # 768x576 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 35.82 kHz; pclk: 34.96 MHz
        ModeLine "768x576"  34.96  768 792 872 976  576 577 580 597  -HSync +Vsync
        # 768x576 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 43.27 kHz; pclk: 42.93 MHz
        ModeLine "768x576"  42.93  768 800 880 992  576 577 580 601  -HSync +Vsync
        # 768x576 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 45.15 kHz; pclk: 45.51 MHz
        ModeLine "768x576"  45.51  768 808 888 1008  576 577 580 602  -HSync +Vsync
        # 768x576 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 51.42 kHz; pclk: 51.84 MHz
        ModeLine "768x576"  51.84  768 808 888 1008  576 577 580 605  -HSync +Vsync
        # 768x576 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 61.10 kHz; pclk: 62.57 MHz
        ModeLine "768x576"  62.57  768 816 896 1024  576 577 580 611  -HSync +Vsync
        # 800x600 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 63.60 kHz; pclk: 68.18 MHz
        ModeLine "800x600"  68.18  800 848 936 1072  600 601 604 636  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1024x768 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 81.40 kHz; pclk: 113.31 MHz
        ModeLine "1024x768"  113.31  1024 1096 1208 1392  768 769 772 814  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1152x864 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 53.70 kHz; pclk: 81.62 MHz
        ModeLine "1152x864"  81.62  1152 1216 1336 1520  864 865 868 895  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1152x864 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 77.10 kHz; pclk: 119.65 MHz
        ModeLine "1152x864"  119.65  1152 1224 1352 1552  864 865 868 907  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1152x864 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 91.50 kHz; pclk: 143.47 MHz
        ModeLine "1152x864"  143.47  1152 1232 1360 1568  864 865 868 915  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1280x960 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 72.07 kHz; pclk: 124.54 MHz
        ModeLine "1280x960"  124.54  1280 1368 1504 1728  960 961 964 1001  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1280x960 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 75.15 kHz; pclk: 129.86 MHz
        ModeLine "1280x960"  129.86  1280 1368 1504 1728  960 961 964 1002  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1280x960 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 101.70 kHz; pclk: 178.99 MHz
        ModeLine "1280x960"  178.99  1280 1376 1520 1760  960 961 964 1017  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1280x1024 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 108.50 kHz; pclk: 190.96 MHz
        ModeLine "1280x1024"  190.96  1280 1376 1520 1760  1024 1025 1028 1085  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1400x1050 @ 60.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 65.22 kHz; pclk: 122.61 MHz
        ModeLine "1400x1050"  122.61  1400 1488 1640 1880  1050 1051 1054 1087  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1400x1050 @ 72.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 78.77 kHz; pclk: 149.34 MHz
        ModeLine "1400x1050"  149.34  1400 1496 1648 1896  1050 1051 1054 1094  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1400x1050 @ 75.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 82.20 kHz; pclk: 155.85 MHz
        ModeLine "1400x1050"  155.85  1400 1496 1648 1896  1050 1051 1054 1096  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1400x1050 @ 85.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 93.76 kHz; pclk: 179.26 MHz
        ModeLine "1400x1050"  179.26  1400 1504 1656 1912  1050 1051 1054 1103  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1400x1050 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 111.20 kHz; pclk: 214.39 MHz
        ModeLine "1400x1050"  214.39  1400 1512 1664 1928  1050 1051 1054 1112  -HSync +Vsync
        # 1600x1200 @ 100.00 Hz (GTF) hsync: 127.10 kHz; pclk: 280.64 MHz
        ModeLine "1600x1200"  280.64  1600 1728 1904 2208  1200 1201 1204 1271  -HSync +Vsync
EndSection

# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nv"
        VendorName  "All"
        BoardName   "All"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultColorDepth 16
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     1
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     4
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     8
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     15
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     32
                Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode 0666
EndSection

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#2 2005-08-17 12:16:28

magnum_opus
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Registered: 2005-01-26
Posts: 132

Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

are you using "startxfce4" and "startkde"?

if so startxfce4 is smart enough to start X when you run it, starkde doesn't. so choices are, use something like GDM which starts X and presents a login inscreen which you can pick the WM to use. OR edit the .xinitrc file in your home folder and at the end of the file replace the uncommented "exec ____" (generally like windowmaker or fluxbox) with "exec startkde" or "exec openbox" then use "startx" to launch.

also
for future reference the term is windowmanager, WindowMaker is a specific windowmanager.

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#3 2005-08-17 12:43:34

fluke
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Registered: 2005-08-12
Posts: 241
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Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

yes , I used 'exec fluxbox' or 'exec startkde' to start them

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#4 2005-08-17 13:35:35

tomk
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From: Ireland
Registered: 2004-07-21
Posts: 9,837

Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

If you're using startx, show us your ~/.xinitrc.

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#5 2005-08-17 13:56:16

fluke
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From: Shaoguan Univ., PRC
Registered: 2005-08-12
Posts: 241
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Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

I can start them now.
MaybeI made a mistake.
I used to typed "exec startkde" in the prompt line, an enter
But when I add the command dirrectly in .xinitc, and use startx, it worked correctly.

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#6 2005-08-17 14:58:55

magnum_opus
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Posts: 132

Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

yeah, see "exec startkde" is an instruction to the startx program it's not its own command, when you use startx it reads .xinitrc to see which programs to start.

you can also use .xinitrc to start other programs as well, if you want fluxbox to start with fbpager, torsmo, an xterm, and set the background to a specific picture you just add

fbpager &
torsmo &
xterm &
Esetroot picture.jpg
exec fluxbox

with the window manager being the last command

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#7 2005-08-17 15:15:20

dtw
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From: London, UK
Registered: 2004-08-03
Posts: 4,428
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Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

ewwwww - Esetroot?  Try feh wink

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#8 2005-08-17 16:51:43

magnum_opus
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Registered: 2005-01-26
Posts: 132

Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

eh, i just use it cause it's already on my system. no endorsment expressed or implied.

actually other than esetroot i don't have any those in a xinitrc, wonder why i chose them for examples.

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#9 2005-08-17 18:47:18

keevn7
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From: Lancaster, OH, US
Registered: 2005-06-09
Posts: 206
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Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

Or use hsetroot, since it is made purely for setting backgrounds. I use it to set the background for XDM. heh

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#10 2005-08-18 16:26:33

phrakture
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Registered: 2003-10-29
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Re: Why can't I start most windowMakers ecxept xfce4

bah, I use feh because I have it installed for images anyway...

it's also fun to say... especially as an explative, feh!

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