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Today I decided to install Arch directly on my production PC (and not in a virtual box).
So I've just installed Openbox manually with help from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox
I noticed that none of the Openbox menu items was working because I had to install all software I needed manually.
So besides the differences discussed already, Archbang also has chosen & installed all kinds of software for you.
Now I have to do that myself...
IMHO this blogpost is an excellent resource to choose some software to start with: http://willensky.blogspot.nl/2010/01/ho … linux.html and
of course this overview: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Co … plications
With menumaker (# mmaker -v OpenBox3) I was able to compile the Openbox menu from all the software on my PC.
Installing everything yourself costs somewhat more time, but improves your knowledge of Linux substantially
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Maybe this will help too: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide
I remember it helped me a lot when I was just getting started.
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Installing everything yourself costs somewhat more time, but improves your knowledge of Linux substantially
And empowers you.
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Archbang started as a midnight chat on the crunchbang forums. The term "Archbang" had been around for a while and was coined to describe an Arch base with Openbox, Conky and tint2.
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I would say to definitely set up a conky on your own. Look through the conky thread here for some good designs to build off of. Just doing so will enhance your knowledge just like installing will. I know I had a ton of fun doing so and the experience would have been drastically less inviting if I had just configured it from a menu.
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I love openbox, it's definitely my favorite floating WM, though now I use dwm almost exclusively. I did install Archbang once when I first was getting started with arch. Archbang was a breeze to get installed, but I spent so much time removing software it became ridiculous. It would take me much much longer to go from a base archbang install than a base arch install to end up with an openbox system I was comfortable with.
Don't take this as a rant against archbang - it is a wonderful distro and I'm glad it is available - but it is so very far from being just arch + openbox. It is arch + openbox + a enourmous list of additional software. Much of that additional software is quite good in general terms - but much of it is very redundant: I don't need 3+ spreadsheet editors, just one that works well. I wouldn't want a menu that had half a dozen terminal emulators in a submenu. How many people use more than one terminal emulator (not more than one instance, more than one app)? I just want the one I use available.
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