*edited title* problem setting up wireless, please read my last post

HungGarTiger · 2012-06-28 02:28:36

Hey guys,

I have mounted the 2011.8 iso to my usb and am looking to install in a Virtual Machine before I go live with my computer, can anybody recommend a VM that supports USB 2.0? I've just spent an hour playing around with VirtualBox 4.1.18 and it seems impossible to boot from this source, creating a CD is currently not an option.

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Trilby · 2012-06-28 02:40:40

I have very little experience with this, but you don't need to create a cd to have virtualbox treat the disk image as a CD.

Inxsible · 2012-06-28 02:51:19

you can just mount the iso as a cd in virtualbox. I always use it that way to install Arch on my work machine. No need to create a install cd or usb

Pres · 2012-06-28 03:00:10

You need to install the proprietary extension pack to get USB 2.0 support, though you shouldn't need that to install from the .iso file.

HungGarTiger · 2012-06-28 06:33:39

Thanks guys, I was thrown off buy the comment "must be bootable media".

Anyway, I have a working Virtual Machine up and running now. Working through the post installation guide right now. I do have one questions and it may seem stupid, I'm assuming that my wireless network is working (perfectly) because it is able to use my hardware through Debian. Now if I was to install on my harddrive would there be a chance it would stop working?

FYI I installed all the recommended packages for wireless in the guide

DSpider · 2012-06-28 08:40:27

Removed my own comment because OP edited the title without capitalization.

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HungGarTiger · 2012-06-28 11:09:55

Well I seem to have a fully functioning Arch Linux Guest, I am very happy.

It took most of the day as I read everything properly and tried to understand what I was doing and why, things have gone well.

I have now stumbled across an error though, getting slightly over excited when I installed my WM and DM. I seem to have missed a step, from what I have read about people having similar problems I just need a ".xinitrc" file in my root directory. So basically I'm getting a "failed to login" error when I try with slim - this is only an issue because I am loading in Virtualbox so when I "C+A+F2" it effects my home system not my Guest. Also killing X doesn't work as the deamon restarts it, so I've gotten a little stuck..

Any advice on solving this problem? I need to kill Slim and X first, then add this ".xinitrc" file

DSpider · 2012-06-28 11:22:06

Removed my own comment because OP edited the title without capitalization.

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Inxsible · 2012-06-28 14:29:35

DSpider wrote:

Installing wireless packages in VirtualBox will only be for practice. By default, VirtualBox uses NAT.

Ding ding ding !!

In lay man terms, I believe you will see only eth0 when you list your network connections. So Virtualbox sees your connection as hardwired even though its actually wireless. My virtualbox arch install

[root@archvm ~]# ip addr
1: lo:  <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
      inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
      inet6 ::1/128 scope host
         valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
2: eth0: <BROADCAST, MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
       link/ether XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX brd XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX

HungGarTiger · 2012-06-28 16:10:33

Inxsible wrote:

DSpider wrote:
Installing wireless packages in VirtualBox will only be for practice. By default, VirtualBox uses NAT.
Ding ding ding !!
In lay man terms, I believe you will see only eth0 when you list your network connections. So Virtualbox sees your connection as hardwired even though its actually wireless.

Thanks I'll definatly remember that one.

I decided to reinstall, mostly for the practise.

Is it preferable to do the NetInstall when installing for real? I think I read that somewhere..

There is so much information for this distro, I'm amazed at the quality too - I've never had to look more than a couple of minutes to find the answer to a problem. You guys do a great job

Inxsible · 2012-06-28 16:18:47

HungGarTiger wrote:

Is it preferable to do the NetInstall when installing for real? I think I read that somewhere..

netinstall avoids having to download a lot of updates immediately after installation. Saves you some bandwidth. Other than that they are pretty much the same.

I'd also recommend installing over a hardwired connection. Easier & saves you some additional steps of configuring wireless.

Pres · 2012-06-28 17:20:28

The netinstall image also leaves you with an up-to-date system right away, which is preferable since there have been quite a few updates since the last images have been released that require manual intervention to work (read some of the news on the front page). If you use the core image, you'll have to work through all of those after installing.

HungGarTiger · 2012-06-29 09:38:57

Yes I think I'll go with that route, I might have to clear my weekend, buy some snacks, beer and cigarettes for a install session

HungGarTiger · 2012-06-30 15:35:46

Well I have a fully functioning Arch Guest now, he moved in very quietly and even pays his rent on time. I couldn't be a happier land lord.

I have to say that from all I've heard about Arch, it was a very painless process. The netinstall (core-remote) made the process a cake-walk, so now I guess I'll be reading around to see if my wireless and such is supported. And go for the big one when I've played around with some WM themes and other fun junk.

Just out of interest, I am using Openbox, what is a good DM? I am using SLiM, but it doesn't feel 'neat' it seems to leave a terminal hanging before it's loaded and with Debian it usually says "Other users are logged on" and I have to enter passwords to log out. I'm looking for something light weight a highly configurable.

Inxsible · 2012-06-30 15:58:22

SLiM is a bitch from what I hear. I'd recommend not using any DM at all.

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-01 05:06:53

With no DM how do you log in? I don't like auto login, from the stand point of computer security.

skunktrader · 2012-07-01 06:26:34

HungGarTiger wrote:

With no DM how do you log in? I don't like auto login, from the stand point of computer security.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Start_X_at_boot

Inxsible · 2012-07-01 06:32:55

you login at the tty

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-01 15:05:27

Inxsible wrote:

you login at the tty

Yes, that was a stupid question on my part - shoudn't use a computer when tired haha..

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-02 12:36:14

So, I have my Arch up and running well on a wired connection. I can't seem to get my wireless up and going though, I have followed the instructions in the wiki for wireless and wpa_supplicant. I have installed networkmanager, but am but loading the daemon as the examples are all for "network".

I can scan for and locate my network but I can't seem to connect to it, I'll be happy to provide more information if people let me know specifically the information they need - still new at having this much control so I don't really know where to look. Sorry

tomk · 2012-07-02 13:02:43

Not very clear - did you try a manual setup or not? If not, try it now - much easier to identify issues that way.

Also, not a good idea the change the title like that - better to start a new thread about any new issue(s).

HungGarTiger · 2012-07-02 13:17:07

I tried the manual setup as that was recommended for the first time set up, then followed the instructions for the wpa_supplicant - as is also recommended.

I can't seem to copy anything from xterm though, maybe it doesn't support this function?

tomk · 2012-07-02 15:07:35

One issue at a time.

At this stage, all we know about your wifi is that you "can't seem to get it up and going" - nobody can help you without more details.

Inxsible · 2012-07-02 15:13:16

HungGarTiger, you already have this thread for your wireless issue https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 3#p1124413 which has a solution that you have confirmed.

so why are you creating confusion by changing titles in here....

Closing this thread as whatever your original issue was, is solved....

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