[SOLVED] New Installation with dial up ethernet connection

commsanjay · 2012-08-13 12:02:23

I had installed Arch previously in VMware player and in love with it, though i am new to Linux ). i am trying to install standalone Arch on my desktop which has ethernet Wired internet connection. It has a browser based sign in. Like it you open chrome or firefox on Ubuntu and give address as 1.254.254.254, automatically a sign in page of provider (Tikona , India) comes up), after filling username, password you are connected.
Now i have formatted my hard disk, 'root@archiso' is staring at me and i can not install base & base-devel as even if ethernet Wire is connected, i have to log in by giving username/password on any browser. Now what do i do? Pls help.

Last edited by commsanjay (2012-09-04 06:51:44)

tr!x0r · 2012-08-13 12:09:19

Hi,

Could you verify that your dns settings are correct?

cat /etc/resolv.conf, if this file is empty, add nameserver 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.4.4 in the file.

Cheers

Smoerrebroed · 2012-08-13 12:43:50

Ahem, did you already try

lynx 1.254.254.254

That should bring up the login page.

Cheers,

Smoerrebroed

commsanjay · 2012-08-13 13:36:26

tks,
there were no DNS settings in the /etc/resolv.conf, so i put in search 1.254.254.254
nameserver 8.8.8.8
Sorry for sounding dumb, but now even if i have put in all these correctly, would not i need a browser to access, 1.254.254.254?
The bare bone Arch install does not have any thing, right? i have to connect to internet to get 'base' and browser, and i can not connect to internet without browser!!!!

lynx 1.254.254.254 gets reply -bash:lynx: command not found.

tr!x0r · 2012-08-13 13:45:10

Yes you are correct.

As for the browser problem, sorry for my misunderstanding, I was thinking you had a problem similar to one that I solved a few days ago.

As for your solution. I don't really know what you can do. A few random things where I think about:

1. How about proxy settings? Can you set a proxy and authenticate ? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Proxy
2. You could download the lynx package, put it on a stick, boot, insert stick, install lynkx, authenticate, install system?
3. Live boot an other distro, insert archcd, chroot, do some nasty tricks and stuff ?

Cheers

cfr · 2012-08-14 00:27:04

tr!x0r wrote:

2. You could download the lynx package, put it on a stick, boot, insert stick, install lynkx, authenticate, install system?

If you use this method, be sure to check that you also download any needed dependencies.

You also need to check what the requirements are to sign in. As far as I know, lynx doesn't do javascript, for example (though there are other text browsers which do). Of course, you can also just try it.

drobole · 2012-08-14 01:57:54

commsanjay wrote:

tks,
...
The bare bone Arch install does not have any thing, right? i have to connect to internet to get 'base' and browser, and i can not connect to internet without browser!!!!

The lates iso has elinks.
Try this command

# elinks 1.254.254.254

commsanjay · 2012-08-14 07:39:23

elinks 1.254.254.254 command seems to connect to log in page of Tikona, but the page itself is stuck at 'page being loaded' stage. nothing is appearing i.e. username/password boxes are not appearing. is it possible that for that it will require support of some other elements, flash etc? if only elinks command could open the page........
thanks drobole, any suggestions?
also thanks tr!x0r and cfr.

cfr · 2012-08-15 01:16:49

Try looking at the source code for the login page. You may be able to figure out what it needs. (You may not - it depends on how transparent the coding is.)

Also, I would read the man page or help for elinks and try enabling everything you can e.g. cookies, javascript etc. - whatever elinks supports which might be needed.

EDIT: erase stupid suggestion.

Last edited by cfr (2012-08-15 01:20:33)

San2ban · 2012-08-15 02:06:03

While the system boots, if your ethernet is connected, observe if the comment 'starting network' is marked as done. If yes, that means it has coonnected to network.
Mine is BSNL broadband, and it is recgnized this way. Do you need to login every time to ISP's home page, to access network?

Moderator: I deleted the accidental double post of this. -- bernarcher.

Last edited by bernarcher (2012-08-15 04:46:10)

commsanjay · 2012-08-15 04:30:08

tks san2ban.
Ethernet is available, since if i give command dhcpcd eth0 without connecting cable it says waiting for carrier and then 'timed out'. also in this case Elinks command states' Network is unreachable'
whereas with ethernet cable connected, abv command goes smoothly and elinks command says 'login page being loaded' but it keeps at that only.
I think it needs something to be enabled, but with my limited knowledge i do not know what it is and how to enable it. it may be java as cfr said.
i am trying to read more on elinks.

commsanjay · 2012-08-15 17:07:55

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions … rt-751828/
This webpage lists how to enable ECMA script and also to turn on script error reporting. i did it in Elink browser. when i give address 1.254.254.254,
i am getting error 'A script embedded in the current document raised the following exception: TypeError: document.forms[0] is null.

What does it mean? can anybody tell me how to set this right and finally access the signin webpage?

drobole · 2012-08-16 22:11:43

You could try this:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1144464

With some luck it might work

commsanjay · 2012-08-17 12:34:13

Tks drobole.
I gave the command and it was accepted i.e. returned to prompt.
But i do not know what to do next, as the reference webpage does not tell me how to load X, i tried startx and also xinit.
the output is :command not found.
If the wget command that is shown on the reference page, somehow loads X from install CD, then only this will work.
The above wget command is pointing to slexy.org, i hope it does not require the internet connection, because that is where i am stuck.

regards

cfr · 2012-08-17 23:44:52

That command requires an internet connection. There's no X on the install CD.

commsanjay · 2012-08-23 17:22:00

Hi,
So it seems, unfortunately, i am stuck in the installation of Arch as Elinks is not able to open page 1.254.254.254 for reasons beyond me. (I am a technical novice). I was looking forward to install Arch as sole OS on my desktop. Toughluck!
Regards to everybody who offered advice.

cfr · 2012-08-23 20:42:39

You could try this:
- create a live CD/DVD/USB key for a linux distro which includes a GUI, browser etc. on the install image
- create a suitable media for Arch (i.e. if you only have one optical drive, create a USB key for this if you create a live disk for the other etc.)
- follow the instructions for installing Arch from another installation of linux (except using the live version rather than actually installing it)

Or you could install the smallest distro you can find with a GUI included in the install image to one partition and use that to install Arch on the rest of the disk.

Those may be the most straightforward options at this point. Sorry to not be more help - I have never used elinks. (I have some experience with lynx though nothing which would help here, I don't think.)

commsanjay · 2012-08-31 14:48:41

Thanks cfr for continuous guidance.
It is an excellent suggestion. i tried it with the guide https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/In … ting_Linux
"an alternate simpler installation method". i used archbang live install media. and it works. though i was not able to install Arch successfully, the basic problem of how to access internet is solved successfully due to this wonderful suggestion.
I salute all contributors who have taken time to answer.

Pls mark this as solved.

bernarcher · 2012-08-31 15:31:00

commsanjay, you need to mark this thread as [SOLVED] by yourself. See: Forum Rules

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