Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

qiuwei · 2013-01-09 18:40:54

chenxiaolong wrote:

2013-01-09 release note (lots of awesome stuff )
Unity-for-Arch
* Unity now includes /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_unity.gschema.override, which sets the window dragging key back to Alt since Super- + Drag is completely broken in Unity.
* Updated compiz to 0.9.9.daily12.12.05.0ubuntu2, which has many performance improvements and enables unredirected windows by default (upstream choice).
Unity-for-Arch-Extra
* ubuntu-themes was added. This is Ubuntu's new package that replaces light-themes and ubuntu-mono.
** I've added a GSettings/dconf defaults mechanism to LightDM. Files like the following can be placed in /etc/guest-session/gsettings/:
[org.blah.some.path]
key-1="value1"
key-2=0.5
key-3=['element1','element2']
Those files will set the default dconf settings for the guest account. Files should be named like 10-something.defaults. The higher the number, the higher the priority.
**The Unity LightDM greeter now provides /etc/guest-session/gsettings/10-unity.defaults. This will make the guest session look all nice. It uses some of the Ubuntu defaults (Ambiance theme, Ubuntu wallpaper, etc) instead of the horrible mess that the regular defaults make
**LightDM now properly uses the systemd PAM module so that the LightDM environment is properly set up. This allows the NetworkManager applet to show up on the login screen, which allows remote logins to work
* The FreeRDP PAM module now has a working configuration file.
*The remote login configuration session (lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure) uses Chromium for now, since something is causing Firefox to hang in that session.
I find the guest account and remote login features so cool, but maybe that's because I've been reading policykit, pam, and systemd man pages for hours

Awesome! Thanks, chenxiaolong!

illusionmist · 2013-01-10 15:08:41

Nice work! Thanks.
Btw pekmop1024 could you update the unity.xe-xe.org when you're free? Much appreciated.

EDIT: Some problems I encountered while building it:

libindicate, indicator-session:

Need to patch configure.ac
-AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)
+AC_CONFIG_HEADERS(config.h)

compiz-ubuntu:

Need to change sha512sum for compiz.reset, doesn't match.

Last edited by illusionmist (2013-01-10 17:03:22)

chenxiaolong · 2013-01-10 18:46:22

illusionmist wrote:

Nice work! Thanks.
Btw pekmop1024 could you update the unity.xe-xe.org when you're free? Much appreciated.
EDIT: Some problems I encountered while building it:
libindicate, indicator-session:
Need to patch configure.ac
-AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)
+AC_CONFIG_HEADERS(config.h)
compiz-ubuntu:
Need to change sha512sum for compiz.reset, doesn't match.

Thanks!

All the AC_CONFIG_HEADERS should be fixed now (https://github.com/chenxiaolong/Unity-f … t-12085319). Compiz's sha512sums are fixed in commit f0f8c8883c4a3a4805b15c17f63106d88bfe5596.

pekmop1024 · 2013-01-10 19:58:10

I'm here, folks It's just every year we have new year apocalypse here, from 31 dec to 14 jan, 95% of people are drunk & happy

UPD: repo is updated

Last edited by pekmop1024 (2013-01-11 01:11:26)

qiuwei · 2013-01-11 10:23:10

pekmop1024 wrote:

I'm here, folks It's just every year we have new year apocalypse here, from 31 dec to 14 jan, 95% of people are drunk & happy
UPD: repo is updated

Thanks! But the extra directory is empty in the repo.

pekmop1024 · 2013-01-11 17:56:17

Fixed just forgot to rename...

qiuwei · 2013-01-11 19:21:09

@chenxiaolong,
lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure depends on Chromium. Is it possible to use google-chrome instead?

chenxiaolong · 2013-01-11 20:50:58

qiuwei wrote:

@chenxiaolong,
lightdm-remote-session-uccsconfigure depends on Chromium. Is it possible to use google-chrome instead?

Unfortunately not. Arch Linux's PKGBUILD's can't depend on one of two packages ("chromium | google-chrome") like dpkg. I'd prefer to not depend on AUR packages, since it makes it hard to install from a repo.

EDIT: I thought of a workaround.

EDIT2: Fixed in commit 2842a7b463c1b532a138973340b5fd476ca642bb. The package does not depend on Chromium anymore. It will look for Google Chrome first, then Chromium. If neither are installed, then a popup will be shown asking the user to install one of them.

Last edited by chenxiaolong (2013-01-11 21:01:53)

illusionmist · 2013-01-11 21:46:25

Interesting update.

http://www.iloveubuntu.net/starting-tod … g-ringtail

illusionmist · 2013-01-11 22:49:58

Hmm. I'm having trouble summoning my Chinese IME (gcin) with control-space. I'm sure it works fine in Gnome Shell.
Also the system beep doesn't play sound like it does in Gnome Shell, instead it uses the hardware speaker.

Any idea?

chenxiaolong · 2013-01-12 00:28:06

illusionmist wrote:

Hmm. I'm having trouble summoning my Chinese IME (gcin) with control-space. I'm sure it works fine in Gnome Shell.
Also the system beep doesn't play sound like it does in Gnome Shell, instead it uses the hardware speaker.
Any idea?

Hmm...for the beep issue, try setting org.gnome.desktop.sound.theme-name to "freedesktop" in dconf-editor: http://i.imgur.com/jEWjk.png

For gcin, how are you starting it? Is there any chance it's not being started in Unity?

illusionmist · 2013-01-12 01:27:51

chenxiaolong wrote:

illusionmist wrote:
Hmm. I'm having trouble summoning my Chinese IME (gcin) with control-space. I'm sure it works fine in Gnome Shell.
Also the system beep doesn't play sound like it does in Gnome Shell, instead it uses the hardware speaker.
Any idea?
Hmm...for the beep issue, try setting org.gnome.desktop.sound.theme-name to "freedesktop" in dconf-editor: http://i.imgur.com/jEWjk.png
For gcin, how are you starting it? Is there any chance it's not being started in Unity?

Nope, still coming from the speaker

ps aux shows gcin running in the background, and the variables have all been set (done in my .xprofile)
I also checked the keyboard settings and made sure there was no conflicted short cut.

chenxiaolong · 2013-01-12 07:56:47

illusionmist wrote:

Nope, still coming from the speaker
ps aux shows gcin running in the background, and the variables have all been set (done in my .xprofile)
I also checked the keyboard settings and made sure there was no conflicted short cut.

Do those two problems exist if you login to a GNOME session with the Unity packages installed?

I'll try installing gcin tomorrow. I have no trouble using Control Space for ibus (simplified Chinese). I wonder why gcin is not working.

illusionmist · 2013-01-12 12:41:06

chenxiaolong wrote:

illusionmist wrote:
Nope, still coming from the speaker
ps aux shows gcin running in the background, and the variables have all been set (done in my .xprofile)
I also checked the keyboard settings and made sure there was no conflicted short cut.
Do those two problems exist if you login to a GNOME session with the Unity packages installed?
I'll try installing gcin tomorrow. I have no trouble using Control Space for ibus (simplified Chinese). I wonder why gcin is not working.

So I uninstalled and reinstalled gcin and it works now... (I think perhaps the "updating gtk immodule" after installation triggered something)
Still getting hardware beep though. Just tried again in Gnome Shell and it plays sound just like it should.

EDIT: Did some research and it seemed to be a bug of Compiz... so I ended up just disable the bell all together.
Compiz just seems so... old. I wonder if they'll consider porting Unity back to Mutter again someday?

Last edited by illusionmist (2013-01-12 18:37:46)

pekmop1024 · 2013-01-12 20:52:45

Unity will be ported to Wayland, I think...

qiuwei · 2013-01-12 21:37:32

Compiz is not very old. They rewrite it completely in C++ not long ago. I think there is at least one full time employee in canonical working on Compiz.
Though its performance seems still not to be satisfying.

For your problem I just disable the bell completely:)

shiznix · 2013-01-16 00:06:45

How did you guys get on with getting Empathy to work with Ubuntu Online Accounts or is anyone still working on this ?

I noticed that it's still kind of buggy in Ubuntu too (online status indication in messages indicator doesn't match Empathy's or clicking on Invisible enables Busy), so not sure whether it's just a proof of concept at this stage.

Trying to get Facebook integration working initially as it's really the only type of messaging I use apart from IRC.
In Ubuntu opening Empathy for the first time opens gnome-control-center's Online Accounts to configure an account, I configure Facebook login and instantly my Facebook contacts appear in Empathy's window.

My problem is that once I configure the Facebook login, the contacts do not appear and Empathy stays Offline (although messages indicator reports Available).
This may be related also but clicking on the added Facebook account's Empathy Integration > Options in gnome-control-center's Online Accounts shows nothing but a grey window with the options of 'Cancel' or 'Done'.

Did any of you guys run into this problem ?

shiznix · 2013-01-16 00:33:53

shiznix wrote:

How did you guys get on with getting Empathy to work with Ubuntu Online Accounts or is anyone still working on this ?
<snip>
Did any of you guys run into this problem ?

LOL I had a feeling that as soon as I asked for help I'd solve it within minutes (even though I've been on this for days)
Running the 'account-console' tool in a terminal was what I needed to find that for Facebook integration to work, it requires telepathy-gabble be installed.

Thanks anyway!

divansantana · 2013-01-16 13:21:12

Hi Awesome Archers...

I'm badly missing Arch Linux since switching from KDE+Arch to Ubuntu 12.04(more stable than buggy 12.10). Surprisingly not missing KDE as much as I thought I would.

I really want to try run Arch+Unity as my primary laptop system.
I'll test it first in a VM etc, are the instructions on the wiki still up to date?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … repository (http://unity.xe-xe.org/$arch ?)

What's the best way to get a Unity DE installed and stable?

oi_wtf · 2013-01-16 14:28:31

I you just want to try it, the unity.xe-xe.org repo would be the best approach,
since you don't have to compile every package. Just go to http://unity.xe-xe.org/ and follow the instructions there.

qiuwei · 2013-01-16 16:10:22

divansantana wrote:

Hi Awesome Archers...
I'm badly missing Arch Linux since switching from KDE+Arch to Ubuntu 12.04(more stable than buggy 12.10). Surprisingly not missing KDE as much as I thought I would.
I really want to try run Arch+Unity as my primary laptop system.
I'll test it first in a VM etc, are the instructions on the wiki still up to date?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Un … repository (http://unity.xe-xe.org/$arch ?)
What's the best way to get a Unity DE installed and stable?

The instructions are still up to date, but the trouble shooting section is outdated simply because of awesome archers' hard work!

Last edited by qiuwei (2013-01-16 16:10:48)

divansantana · 2013-01-16 19:42:53

oi_wtf wrote:

I you just want to try it, the unity.xe-xe.org repo would be the best approach,
since you don't have to compile every package. Just go to http://unity.xe-xe.org/ and follow the instructions there.

Ok so for now I will use prebuilt repos.
I see http://unity.humbug.in/ (rebuilt 16/1 today) is more up to date than http://unity.xe-xe.org/ (rebuilt 1/1).

Should one rather use http://unity.humbug.in/ . Do we need tha later rebuild?

Lastly if I decided to run this on my laptop and wanted the best install would it be better to install from source as per https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unity#From_source

I'll try contribute to the wiki and upate it on my experiences.

qiuwei · 2013-01-16 23:16:07

divansantana wrote:

oi_wtf wrote:
I you just want to try it, the unity.xe-xe.org repo would be the best approach,
since you don't have to compile every package. Just go to http://unity.xe-xe.org/ and follow the instructions there.
Ok so for now I will use prebuilt repos.
I see http://unity.humbug.in/ (rebuilt 16/1 today) is more up to date than http://unity.xe-xe.org/ (rebuilt 1/1).
Should one rather use http://unity.humbug.in/ . Do we need tha later rebuild?
Lastly if I decided to run this on my laptop and wanted the best install would it be better to install from source as per https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unity#From_source
I'll try contribute to the wiki and upate it on my experiences.

Yes, the latest may be better and include more new features. What I can tell you is unity.xe-xe.org is also working properly.
I'm not sure whether you will get slightly better performance if you compile all of the packages. But if you decide to compile the packages, it's better to compile all of them in
a *clean* environment such as under chroot. You can follow the blog mentioned on http://unity.humbug.in to check the details.

divansantana · 2013-01-17 12:23:52

Thanks @qiuwei.

Ok so far all is looking very good!

Wahoo I think I will switch soon. Can't wait!

Just a few small things noticed so far:

* The Files&Folders lens seems not to be working. Doesn't find anything. Does this work for you guys? What am I missing?
* indicator-multiload package is not available in Repo's/aur etc. Not a big deal can be packaged
* diodon (best clipboard for unity) is in AUR but outdated and doesn't have the great unity integration. Minor can be updated.

oi_wtf · 2013-01-17 16:58:51

@divansantana:

* The Files&Folders lens seems not to be working. Doesn't find anything. Does this work for you guys? What am I missing?
- maybe zeitgeist, afaik packages are named zeitgeist and zeitgeist-datahub, they should be in [community] if I remember correctly

* indicator-multiload package is not available in Repo's/aur etc. Not a big deal can be packaged
- multiload indicator is broken, no more support for unity since... er... a long time...

* diodon (best clipboard for unity) is in AUR but outdated and doesn't have the great unity integration. Minor can be updated.
- I don't know anything about that one.

Last edited by oi_wtf (2013-01-17 16:59:59)

Arch Linux

#1501 2013-01-09 18:40:54

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1502 2013-01-10 15:08:41

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1503 2013-01-10 18:46:22

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1504 2013-01-10 19:58:10

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1505 2013-01-11 10:23:10

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1506 2013-01-11 17:56:17

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1507 2013-01-11 19:21:09

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1508 2013-01-11 20:50:58

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1509 2013-01-11 21:46:25

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1510 2013-01-11 22:49:58

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1511 2013-01-12 00:28:06

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1512 2013-01-12 01:27:51

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1513 2013-01-12 07:56:47

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1514 2013-01-12 12:41:06

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1515 2013-01-12 20:52:45

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1516 2013-01-12 21:37:32

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1517 2013-01-16 00:06:45

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1518 2013-01-16 00:33:53

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1519 2013-01-16 13:21:12

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1520 2013-01-16 14:28:31

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1521 2013-01-16 16:10:22

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1522 2013-01-16 19:42:53

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1523 2013-01-16 23:16:07

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1524 2013-01-17 12:23:52

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

#1525 2013-01-17 16:58:51

Re: Progress on Unity under Arch Linux!

Board footer