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#4876 2013-03-01 06:36:57

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ChemBro wrote:

What does beta 7 do or fix? Because on the amd website, there is no sign of an Linux beta 7 driver, only beta 6.


From Amd site:

(Please note that AMD Catalyst 13.2 Beta 7 includes all of the fixes found in previous versions of AMD Catalyst 13.2 Beta)

FEATURE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE AMD CATALYST 13.2 BETA 7 DRIVER

Resolves an intermittent hang seen in Crossfire configurations with the new Crysis 3 patch.


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#4877 2013-03-01 07:46:11

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Also look at the fullscreen fps:

deden wrote:
[deden@archlinux-salon ~]$ fgl_glxgears 
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
1378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 275.600 FPS
120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.000 FPS
114 frames in 5.0 seconds = 22.800 FPS
117 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.400 FPS
119 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.800 FPS
121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.200 FPS
120 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.000 FPS
116 frames in 5.0 seconds = 23.200 FPS
121 frames in 5.0 seconds = 24.200 FPS

It's almost constant 24 fps max, like some hard-lock. It's rendering even less (but still around 24fps) which is probably killing movies...
Maybe there's some config for this or process which is doing some mess. I wrote about switching to kde/gnome but i had in mind any other DE (i'm using kde and testing gnome sometimes so i can tell it's working fine there, but you may use lxde or fluxbox or any other stable) to only check how it works there.

Edit: another thing: how it will work if you will enable TearFree? (though i doubt it would help)

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#4878 2013-03-01 08:41:34

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ruien wrote:

Did you try how it performes in a game? Like xonotic, UT?

I haven't tried yet because i was guessing that performance would not change. But it's a good idea. I will try this evening.

Vi0L0 wrote:

I wrote about switching to kde/gnome but i had in mind any other DE

another thing: how it will work if you will enable TearFree? (though i doubt it would help)

I'll try with an other DE this evening too.

I have already tried enabling TearFree but it doesn't change a thing.


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#4879 2013-03-01 09:13:47

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ruien wrote:
ChemBro wrote:

What does beta 7 do or fix? Because on the amd website, there is no sign of an Linux beta 7 driver, only beta 6.


From Amd site:

(Please note that AMD Catalyst 13.2 Beta 7 includes all of the fixes found in previous versions of AMD Catalyst 13.2 Beta)

FEATURE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE AMD CATALYST 13.2 BETA 7 DRIVER

Resolves an intermittent hang seen in Crossfire configurations with the new Crysis 3 patch.

That is the Windows beta changelog, not the Linux one. I'm not interested in the Windows changelog.

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#4880 2013-03-01 09:31:38

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ChemBro wrote:

That is the Windows beta changelog, not the Linux one. I'm not interested in the Windows changelog.

My bad but then you should also know that AMD didn't release any changelog for linux.  So nobody knows yet


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#4881 2013-03-01 09:39:08

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ruien wrote:
ChemBro wrote:

That is the Windows beta changelog, not the Linux one. I'm not interested in the Windows changelog.

My bad but then you should also know that AMD didn't release any changelog for linux.  So nobody knows yet

AMD also didn't really release this driver. That's my point. Only beta 6 is "official".

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#4882 2013-03-01 10:04:23

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ChemBro wrote:
ruien wrote:
ChemBro wrote:

That is the Windows beta changelog, not the Linux one. I'm not interested in the Windows changelog.

My bad but then you should also know that AMD didn't release any changelog for linux.  So nobody knows yet

AMD also didn't really release this driver. That's my point. Only beta 6 is "official".

Beta 6 also wasn't mentioned (even by a link to download) on amd site when it was released (edit: i mean was available to download)

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#4883 2013-03-01 10:14:21

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ChemBro wrote:

AMD also didn't really release this driver. That's my point. Only beta 6 is "official".

Yes they did. [url=http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTMxMzk[/url

Download it here


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#4884 2013-03-01 10:27:01

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Well, then I wait till I see it offically release on the amd site.

Also phoronix is not AMD and not an official release. Besides that, they, respectively him is a very bad journalist.

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#4885 2013-03-01 10:47:32

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ChemBro wrote:

Also phoronix is not AMD and not an official release. Besides that, they, respectively him is a very bad journalist.

He's not that bad. 3 years ago he predicted steam client for linux from he's crystal ball! tongue

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#4886 2013-03-01 10:48:16

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ChemBro wrote:

Well, then I wait till I see it offically release on the amd site.

Also phoronix is not AMD and not an official release. Besides that, they, respectively him is a very bad journalist.

It is not Phoronix who release this driver. They only report that  beta7  is released for download and if they/him is a bad journalist or not doesnt change the fact that the beta7 driver is on ati servers wich make's it an amd release. Check download link in my post.


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#4887 2013-03-01 11:17:35

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Upgraded to catalyst-13.2-beta7 from [catalyst] repo and no changes in performance and it didnt break anything smile


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#4888 2013-03-01 21:30:43

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@ruien and @Vi0L0

I have tried with another DE (Fluxbox) and i get 60FPS stable with fgl_glxgears in window and in fulls screen mode.

I have also tried xonotic (which seem to be a nice game by the way) and the "showfps" command tell me that i have got 75FPS stable (There's no lags during the game). On the other side, the game crashes if i try to change default graphic configuration...

EDIT : I have just tried video on fluxbox and it's working perfecly. It seems related to XFCE. I keep on searching.

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#4889 2013-03-01 22:05:24

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

^ Try disabling XFCE's builtin compositor


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#4890 2013-03-01 22:44:16

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Yeahh, it did it !

Since this evening, I have another issue. I get stuck to 60FPS and can't go further...But I'll don't bother you with that and try to solve it by myself.

A great thank to everyone (I was begining to think to give up) ! Have a great week-end !

EDIT : I have solved my 60FPS stuck problem by disabling the V-sync. All is now great.

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#4891 2013-03-01 23:02:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

... wasn't using xfce for ages, so it has now builtin compositor which is limiting fps to 24 max?

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#4892 2013-03-01 23:30:16

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

I haven't seen others XFCE users complaining about such a behave, but for me desabling XFCE compositor correct my 24FPS limitation when i was using full screen application. Thanks again for you help !


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#4893 2013-03-02 00:03:03

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

deden wrote:

I have also tried xonotic (which seem to be a nice game by the way) and the "showfps" command tell me that i have got 75FPS stable (There's no lags during the game). On the other side, the game crashes if i try to change default graphic configuration...

Try starting xonotic(SDL) and then change your settings. On apply it should restart and load the new settings instead of crashing.
And yes its a realy cool game smile Have fun


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#4894 2013-03-02 00:12:29

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

deden wrote:

Yeahh, it did it !

Glad we fixed it! smile

You could try running a standalone compositor (like xcompmgr or compton - cairo-compmgr always gave me trouble) in Fluxbox/Openbox/whatever standalone WM you have installed, just to see if it it is with compositing in general or just XFCE's compositor.

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#4895 2013-03-02 09:49:05

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

ruien wrote:

Try starting xonotic(SDL) and then change your settings. On apply it should restart and load the new settings instead of crashing.

That's work. Let's frag !

Unia wrote:

You could try running a standalone compositor (like xcompmgr or compton - cairo-compmgr always gave me trouble) in Fluxbox/Openbox/whatever standalone WM you have installed, just to see if it it is with compositing in general or just XFCE's compositor.

Good idea, I'll try and let you know about it.


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#4896 2013-03-02 11:51:48

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

@Vi0LO: I think something has happened to your [catalyst] repo:

błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format
błąd:  nie udało się otworzyć pliku /var/lib/pacman/sync/catalyst.db: Unrecognized archive format

Ok, you should understand that, for the rest this is error: could not open a file.

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#4897 2013-03-02 12:03:19

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

deden wrote:

I haven't seen others XFCE users complaining about such a behave, but for me desabling XFCE compositor correct my 24FPS limitation when i was using full screen application. Thanks again for you help !

Just switched to xfce4 to check how it works for me, and it's working perfectly fine with builitin compositor.


@Phitherek_:
works fine here, are you sure that you changed repo' address to catalyst.wirephire.com

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#4898 2013-03-02 18:55:34

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

Had to do complete reload (-Syy), works fine now wink.


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#4899 2013-03-02 19:04:01

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

AMD cards are getting rly good nowadays, right?? Is there anything from AMD about legacy hd234k support ?

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#4900 2013-03-02 19:06:30

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Re: The AMD/ATI Bar & Grill

deden wrote:

That's work. Let's frag !

Then everything seems to be fine but as viOLO said i doubt it has something to do with xfce4 compositor. But if its running fine for you then stick to it smile Happy gaming


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