Tpowa's "Simple Hardware Detection"

tpowa · 2005-11-19 16:00:25

new hwdetect launched in initscripts-9, now the modprobe.conf entries are not necessary anymore.
greetings
tpowa

normc · 2005-11-22 02:29:10

I started using hwdetect a little while ago, no problems when I remember the permissions :oops:. I just loaded the latest · initscripts 0.7.1-10. After putting the correct line in rc.conf (thanks knoppix), I notice that everything runs faster, kde 3.5 firefox 1.5 etc.
THANKS!!!

stonecrest · 2005-11-22 06:42:08

Worked perfectly here, thanks tpowa

MartinZ · 2005-11-23 03:29:46

Great app. Thanks tpowa!!!!

lilsirecho · 2005-11-23 03:32:09

tpowa;
Have hwdetect in both 2.6.14 and 2.6.13 kernels.

While operating the 2.6.13 kernel prior to install of hwdetect and initscripts -10, I was able to utilize USB audio via the USB system and the KDE mixer set to USB pcm format. I noted that the USB device began blinking its indicator led at one second or so intervals when the KDE elements were loaded during boot. The device in use is an SIIG optical/analog USB audio unit.

After loading the hwdetect and initscripts into 2.6.13, the KDE interface during boot does not energize the indicator light and USB audio is inoperative.

The same conditions are extant when using kernel 2.6.14 but it did not provide the USB audio even without the hwdetect and initscripts. The SIIG indicator led never blinks but remains lighted.

The USB mouse scrolls in kernel 2.6.13 but has never scrolled in kernel 2.6.14 with or without hwdetect and initscipts.

root@n6re ~]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
radeon 78080 1
drm 62740 2 radeon
cramfs 40948 1
audio 46592 0
usb_storage 63680 0
usbhid 46368 0
sbp2 22152 0
ohci1394 33716 0
eth1394 18568 0
ieee1394 91352 3 sbp2,ohci1394,eth1394
uhci_hcd 32144 0
ehci_hcd 32904 0
ppp_generic 27796 0
slhc 6656 1 ppp_generic
ne2k_pci 9184 0
via_ircc 24724 0
irda 128568 1 via_ircc
8390 9344 1 ne2k_pci
snd_cmipci 32800 3
snd_opl3_lib 9728 1 snd_cmipci
snd_mpu401_uart 6656 1 snd_cmipci
snd_usb_audio 74816 1
snd_usb_lib 14976 1 snd_usb_audio
usbcore 114300 8 audio,usb_storage,usbhid,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib
snd_rawmidi 21408 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_usb_lib
snd_hwdep 7840 2 snd_opl3_lib,snd_usb_audio
snd_seq_oss 33664 0
snd_seq_midi_event 6400 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 52368 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 7436 4 snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 51104 0
snd_pcm 84868 4 snd_cmipci,snd_usb_audio,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 22660 4 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 8840 1 snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss 18432 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd 49380 19 snd_cmipci,snd_opl3_lib,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_usb_audio,snd_rawmidi,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore 8032 2 audio,snd
crc_ccitt 2176 1 irda
pci_hotplug 27204 0
parport_pc 26308 1
pcspkr 3680 0
gameport 12552 1 snd_cmipci
i2c_viapro 7312 0
i2c_core 18560 1 i2c_viapro
rtc 10808 0
ppdev 7940 0
lp 9860 0
parport 33864 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp
via_agp 8192 1
agpgart 30160 2 drm,via_agp
ntfs 202768 0
evdev 7936 0
tsdev 6336 0

Edit:The above is kernel 2.6.13...........below is the listing of hwdetect therein;

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[root@n6re ~]# usbview
[root@n6re ~]# hwdetect -show-modules
AGP : agpgart via-agp
USB : usb-storage usbhid audio usbcore ehci-hcd uhci-hcd snd-usb-audio snd-usb-lib
FW : eth1394 ieee1394 ohci1394 sbp2
NET : 8390 via-ircc ne2k-pci ppp_generic slhc irda
SOUND : snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi-event snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-rawmidi snd-timer snd snd-mpu401-uart snd-opl3-lib snd-cmipci soundcore snd-usb-audio snd-usb-lib
OTHER : lp ppdev rtc i2c-viapro i2c-core evdev gameport pcspkr parport parport_pc pci_hotplug shpchp crc-ccitt
[root@n6re ~]#

Perhaps the above data will help....

lilsirecho · 2005-11-23 04:52:02

tpowa;

Do not know what changed things but after loading hwdetect, initscripts -10 and ....tune2fs -O dir_index /dev/hda3...and shutdown -F -r now... my system responds to MPlayer and KMplayer whereas before in this kernel I was unable to use either (Kernel 2.6.13)

I am going to test kernel 2.6.14 for the same problem existed there.

lilsirecho · 2005-11-23 05:40:07

tpowa;

Downloaded mplayer and kmplayer into kernel 2.6.14 with hwdetect and initscripts-10 already installed and both mplayer and kmplayer performed correctly. It seems the hwdetect with initscripts solves the mplayer problem I experienced with both kernels.

tpowa · 2005-11-23 06:14:57

lilsirecho: could it be that you are running kde from testing repo and that get updated?
new kdemultimedia is bugged with arts output and cna'T play mp3 or ogg files.
btw is your system now correct working, beside the audio problem?
thanks
greetings
tpowa

lilsirecho · 2005-11-23 06:23:19

tpowa;

Thanks for response and the comments. I suspect that the kde area may be the culprit however the downloads for kde were made some time ago.

The scroll wheel on the mouse doesn't work in kernel 2.6.14 still.

I am running normally for all the elements I have encountered except the mouse. It performs correctly in kernel 2.6.13.

Thanks for the upgrades . Might try the new gui for pacman being discussed..

IceRAM · 2005-11-23 11:25:17

10x tpowa

2 tiny suggestions:
a) would it be possible to add an argument to hwdetect like... "--list-modules"... that would create a list with space separated module names, usable in... /etc/rc.conf for example (or even create directly a "MODULES=(...)" line).

b) would it be possible to change the params from "-long-param-name" to "--long-param-name", as the POSIX conventions say? (or.. at least that's what I know) I kept wondering why "hwdetec --show-modules" didn't work for me...

tpowa · 2005-11-23 12:56:39

implemented now with --show-modules-order
greetings
tpowa

lilsirecho · 2005-11-23 18:16:00

tpowa;

Wonders never cease....

Downloaded pacman -Syu for initscripts -12 and some alsa upgrades.

I lost mplayer after the initscripts re-install in rcsysinit and reboot in kernel 2.6.13. The USB audio operates through the kde mixer but the kde mixer no longer has the pci audio option available.

In kernel 2.6.14, downloaded via pacman also and installed initscripts -12. and added the lines to rcsysinit.

After reboot, lost usb mouse and received arts sound message. Cannot run kernel 2.6.14 as a result.

Perhaps this info is of interest to your project.

Perhaps I can restore my 2.6.14?

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-24 05:39:55

I think there's something modprobed that shouldn't be:

ppp_generic            27796  0
slhc                    6656  1 ppp_generic

My system does not have a dialup modem anywhere in it. :?

tpowa · 2005-11-24 06:33:02

this gets loaded if you have serial ports, you can safely blacklist them.

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 15:53:48

tpowa;

Additional remarks regarding -12 initscripts...

The hwdetect -show-modules command fails to display modules..Hwdetect -show-modules-order... also fails....kernel 2.6.13...

Unable to run kernel 2.6.14 due to loss of USB mouse and USB keyboard after install of initscripts -12.

tpowa · 2005-11-24 15:58:31

the command scheme has change to -- syntax, use --yourfavouriteoption
greetings
tpowa

tpowa · 2005-11-24 16:06:13

would be nice if you would post your modules in rc.conf and what hwdetect --show-module-order shows on 2.6.14, thanks

Gullible Jones · 2005-11-24 16:25:49

Wow... This detects serial port stuff too? :shock: Tpowa, your script kicks ass.

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 17:15:04

tpowa;

Unable to enter hwdetect -show-modules-order in kernel 2.6.14 since I have no mouse nor keyboard(USB not functioning).

Rcconf modules list:
MODULES=(!usbserial !ide-scsi ne2k-pci snd-usb-audio cramfs fuse)

Tried using the CD 0.7.1 but does not load to system via the prompt entry.....arch root=/dev/hda3....

The CD boot then enters vmlinuz followed by initrd but does not load the system, ending up in arch install prompt.

Attempts to run hwdetect after chroot unsuccessful, requires /sys mount.

Is there a way to revert to initscripts -10?

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 17:23:51

tpowa;

Just received the syntax message and re-ran hwdetect --show-modules-order but it is in kernel 2.6.13.

Kernel 2.6.13 has lost mplayer in initscripts -12.

[root@n6re ~]# hwdetect --show-modules-order
MODULES ORDER: agpgart via-agp lp ppdev rtc i2c-viapro i2c-core evdev gameport pcspkr parport parport_pc pci_hotplug shpchp crc-ccitt snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi-event snd-hwdep snd-page-alloc snd-rawmidi snd-timer snd snd-mpu401-uart snd-opl3-lib snd-cmipci soundcore 8390 via-ircc ne2k-pci ppp_generic slhc irda usb-storage usbhid audio usbcore ehci-hcd uhci-hcd snd-usb-audio snd-usb-lib eth1394 ieee1394 ohci1394 sbp2
[root@n6re ~]#
Am unable to do the same for kernel 2.6.14.

Kmix has no pci option only USB audio.

Hope this helps!

tpowa · 2005-11-24 17:47:22

my suggestion, try to not load anything in your modules array, let hwdetect do the job, perhaps you confuse it, all your modules are listed so it should work with hwdetect.
usbhid is needed for usb input devices that is also listed so it should work.
Else try to add usbhid to modules array then should work.

EDIT:
have you cleaned modprobe.conf from stupid alsa entries, new kernels can make trouble with old values in modprobe.conf

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 18:11:34

tpowa;

Removed all modules from rcconf in kernel 2.6.13 system which was operating but had no mplayer after -12 initscripts.

That system now acts the same as kernel 2.6.14 which has no USB support.

I address this post from Knoppix.

Question: what action is now to be taken to enable modules from the kernel, such as fuse and cramfs? These were removed per your advice.

I assume I require usbhid in rcconf modules to establish the USB firstly. Perhaps there might be more needed?

I assume that entry of corrections in this kernel (-13) will be useable in restoring (-14) system.

I appreciate your responses

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 18:46:42

tpowa;

Note your EDIT and report that modprobe.conf has no stupid entries as previous posts reported so no changes were initiated therein.

I will try USBHID in kernel 2.6.13 via chroot to rc.conf.

Report later....

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 19:12:28

Inserted .,..usb-hid into rc.conf modules with archCD chroot...verified in this boot of Knoppix.

The kernel 2.6.13 system with the above entry on rc.conf did not provide usb control with the keyboard and mouse after the KDE boot sequence completed. The arch linux log-in was completed with the keyboard, however and it occurs before the kde boot-up.

What further changes in rc.conf will be required?

lilsirecho · 2005-11-24 19:54:27

Will try usbhid again since I entered it incorrectly...sorry :oops:

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