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#1 2013-04-01 07:09:15

jasonwryan
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Pacman 4.1 Released

Pacman 4.1 has just been released to [testing] with some fantastic and long awaited features, including:

  • tight integration between the package manager and systemd

  • colour support added

  • checkupdates merged

  • and more...

Check out Allan's blog post for all the details:
http://allanmcrae.com/2013/04/pacman-4-1-released/


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#2 2013-04-01 11:18:20

hadrons123
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

When updates are found, it schedules a reboot of the system. Is there a way to stop the sheduled reboot feature?


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#3 2013-04-01 11:30:08

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Can I remove pacman-color now? Are the colors same?

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#4 2013-04-01 11:41:15

owain
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

hadrons123 wrote:

When updates are found, it schedules a reboot of the system. Is there a way to stop the sheduled reboot feature?

I think I'm right in saying that you'll get a pop-up warning, allowing you to delay the reboot by a few hours.

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#5 2013-04-01 11:41:49

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Finally the long-awaited auto-reboot feature.

Good job pacman devs!  With every release you make Arch more accessible and open to users unfamiliar with Linux!

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#6 2013-04-01 11:44:58

sonoran
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

hadrons123 wrote:

When updates are found, it schedules a reboot of the system. Is there a way to stop the sheduled reboot feature?

I suspect it's just for today, like a 24-hour bug. wink

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#7 2013-04-01 11:49:02

owain
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Cerebral wrote:

Finally the long-awaited auto-reboot feature.

Good job pacman devs!  With every release you make Arch more accessible and open to users unfamiliar with Linux!

Indeed. Replacing pacman.conf with a GUI which offers just a handful of options would make things more approachable, too.

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#8 2013-04-01 11:53:31

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Feature request for the pacmand - pacmanctl pop-up notification re: auto-reboot;
-f --fullscreen
-b --beep

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#9 2013-04-01 12:06:33

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

What about the browser choice window? I've been waiting for this since forever, how i'm supposed to use Arch without this essential feature? That's it, i'm going to file a complaint to EC, you will not get away with this.


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#10 2013-04-01 12:07:08

owain
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

opt1mus wrote:

Feature request for the pacmand - pacmanctl pop-up notification re: auto-reboot;
-f --fullscreen
-b --beep

-pc --percent: inform the user when updating is 33% complete.

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#11 2013-04-01 12:12:46

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

i thought systemd could handle parallel reboot.


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#12 2013-04-01 12:16:40

hadrons123
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

bangkok_manouel wrote:

i thought systemd could handle parallel reboot.

What is that?


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#13 2013-04-01 12:16:40

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

I have a headless server running Arch and would like to be notified when it needs to be rebooted. Will pacmand be able to send pop-ups remotely to my desktop or phone?

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#14 2013-04-01 12:22:01

progandy
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

hadrons123 wrote:
bangkok_manouel wrote:

i thought systemd could handle parallel reboot.

What is that?

A very useful feature:
Linux keeps running while systemd boots the new kernel. When the new boot is complete, systemd detects all running applications and executes them in the new environment. Then user input will be switched and the old session will be shut down big_smile

finally we get automatic updates. Shut down and laugh when the system won't reboot because of a broken core package.

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#15 2013-04-01 12:28:52

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

progandy wrote:
hadrons123 wrote:
bangkok_manouel wrote:

i thought systemd could handle parallel reboot.

What is that?

A very useful feature:
Linux keeps running while systemd boots the new kernel. When the new boot is complete, systemd detects all running applications and executes them in the new environment. Then user input will be switched and the old session will be shut down big_smile

finally we get automatic updates. Shut down and laugh when the system won't reboot because of a broken core package.

About time! It boggles the mind that it's 2013 and this feature has only just been implemented.


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#16 2013-04-01 12:36:46

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

This does seem complicated doesn't it - if pacman is to be integrated with systemd, why not just rebind all shutdown events - like the power switch - so that when the user tries to shut down it will actually run `pleasewait-win && pacman -Syyuf && poweroff` where pleasewait-win is the popup that informs the user about updates happening.

Perhaps this could be a feature request for the next subversion (4.1.2014).


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#17 2013-04-01 12:46:18

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

wulax wrote:

I have a headless server running Arch and would like to be notified when it needs to be rebooted. Will pacmand be able to send pop-ups remotely to my desktop or phone?

You could use the "--beep" function for that.
I'd also want to suggest a new config file for this feature:

pacman-beep.conf

With this we can make it play different sounds/songs like "For Elise" before a reboot...


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#18 2013-04-01 12:54:03

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

This is great news, and hopefully, pacmand will be smart enough to check for a proper Arch license and if it doesn't find one it will reboot with a warning regarding same, then shutdown.  That would be kind of like Windows does it, but a little better.  Frankly, I'm tired of seeing so many users using pirated copies of Arch Linux.


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#19 2013-04-01 13:02:53

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Faither wrote:
wulax wrote:

I have a headless server running Arch and would like to be notified when it needs to be rebooted. Will pacmand be able to send pop-ups remotely to my desktop or phone?

You could use the "--beep" function for that.
I'd also want to suggest a new config file for this feature:

pacman-beep.conf

With this we can make it play different sounds/songs like "For Elise" before a reboot...

-n --notify-sound=/foo/bar #default --notify-sound="/etc/pacman.d/Also\ Sprach\ Zarathustra.flac"

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#20 2013-04-01 13:03:18

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

the cake is a lie

despite all is funy watch pacman 4.1 on testing just this day


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#21 2013-04-01 13:32:33

jakobcreutzfeldt
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Guys I'm trying out Pacman 4.1 now and my fonts in the pop-up timer are ugly. Can anyone share their /etc/fonts/conf.d/85-pacman.conf?

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#22 2013-04-01 13:47:04

owain
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

opt1mus wrote:
Faither wrote:
wulax wrote:

I have a headless server running Arch and would like to be notified when it needs to be rebooted. Will pacmand be able to send pop-ups remotely to my desktop or phone?

You could use the "--beep" function for that.
I'd also want to suggest a new config file for this feature:

pacman-beep.conf

With this we can make it play different sounds/songs like "For Elise" before a reboot...

-n --notify-sound=/foo/bar #default --notify-sound="/etc/pacman.d/Also\ Sprach\ Zarathustra.flac"

The problem with things like this is that excessive customisation would make technical support a nightmare.

We need sane defaults, which can't be modified except on an enterprise-level edition of Arch.

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#23 2013-04-01 14:03:02

owain
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

I've found this audio clip, which seems suitable. Maybe we could see if we could get it released under a CC licence?

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#24 2013-04-01 14:25:29

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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

Yes, finally auto-reboot! Between this and the beta release of Google Nose I am a very happy camper! I'm also with ozar, we really need some 'genuine advantage' mechanism for Arch aswell.

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#25 2013-04-01 14:35:07

owain
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Re: Pacman 4.1 Released

We could think big. Take on other distros, and how they do things. Push ahead with changes, such as making Gnome 4 the default, and removing Python 2 entirely. After that, the competition will just wither away because of these incompatibilities. Accomodate, augment, and annihalate.

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