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#1 2005-11-29 19:50:21

Mr Green
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More Ram or bigger hard drive

Well Xmas is coming

What would you go for more Ram (some nice low-lat shiny things)

or a

Larger Hard Drive (sata maybe)

:?:


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#2 2005-11-29 19:54:56

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Well, that kinda depends on what you have already.

With even the cheapest hard drives nowadays having mega capacity, I would suggest you look for a quick one. IO is the main bottle neck, IMHO.

Unless of course you only have 64MB RAM, in which case, get some RAM! And then maybe your Java apps will run ok wink

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#3 2005-11-29 20:28:40

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Like I got 512mb atm .... maybe more would help  :?

Hard drive I got 120gb total IDE .... sata with a large cache 8mb+ maybe


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#4 2005-11-29 20:31:21

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

In that case, I'd double your RAM.

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#5 2005-11-29 20:34:34

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

yeah. ram.


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#6 2005-11-29 20:49:11

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Thing is will more Ram help system performance ....?

/me don't go there

Anyway ... I also want those lights you put in case to make it glow blue  lol


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#7 2005-11-29 20:58:28

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

I will also say RAM unless your HD is almost full.
About performance, I don't know. All I can say is that my current laptop with 1GB of RAM  is more performant (especially when pacman installs stuff) than my old one with 256MB. However it could be due to the HD speed or other factors as I'm comparing two different systems. :?

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#8 2005-11-29 21:03:17

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

looks like more RAM would help ....

errr

 df -hT
Filesystem    Type    Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 reiserfs     48G  5.5G   43G  12% /
none         tmpfs    252M     0  252M   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs        tmpfs    252M  8.0K  252M   1% /tmp
/dev/hda2     ext3     28G  2.5G   24G  10% /home
/dev/hdb2 reiserfs    9.4G  4.7G  4.7G  50% /mnt/hdb2

How Hard Drives looks atm ....t


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#9 2005-11-29 21:04:48

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Yeah, go get some bling! Or, you could get yourself a usb pencil sharpener - that'll impress the ladies! "you wanna come in and sharpen some pencils?" (that's a cracking euphemism if ever I heard one - but anyway, I digress...)

I'm pretty sure the RAM will help.

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#10 2005-11-29 21:15:09

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

yeah. the jump from 512 to 1GB really makes a difference for desktop usage. I ripped out 512 for another box for a few weeks..and I was hurting...
I had to go buy another stick to get back to 1gb..

shabling!


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#11 2005-11-29 21:19:10

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Yeah, go get some bling!

emm sounds good to me ... lol is there nothing a usb port cannot do


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#12 2005-11-29 21:22:11

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Although, be careful, the extra weight of the 512MB stick will make your PC heavier. You don't want to add bloat do ya, boy?!



Note to self: stop drinking...

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#13 2005-11-29 21:35:15

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

arooaroo wrote:

Although, be careful, the extra weight of the 512MB stick will make your PC heavier. You don't want to add bloat do ya, boy?!

He's got a PC, not a race car....

More RAM! 1G is the perfect amount for a general use desktop, imho.


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#14 2005-11-29 21:41:58

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

arooaroo wrote:

Although, be careful, the extra weight of the 512MB stick will make your PC heavier. You don't want to add bloat do ya, boy?!.

Emmm never thought of that  :?

May need bigger power supply to power usb pencil sharpener lol


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#15 2005-11-29 22:16:37

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

one word..
"dongle"


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#16 2005-11-29 22:28:05

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Who are you callin' a "dongle"?

Honestly, as soon as people get a big hat...

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#17 2005-11-29 22:37:39

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Well, RAM is cheap and getting cheaper, you can get it any time. If you want to keep abreast of current technology, I suppose the logical choice would be to put the big bucks into a SATA drive.

That said... I don't see how you could ever run out of drive space or RAM with your current getup. :shock:

(I found a single 40-gig HDD hard to make a dent in, never mind two of them.)

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#18 2005-11-29 22:58:39

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

@Gullible Jones: I have two 80Gb HDs, and a 160Gb HD, and my usage looks like this:

Filesystem         Mount               Size     Used    Avail %used fs Type 
/dev/hda2          /                  18.8G     3.3G    14.5G  23%  ext3    
/dev/hda1          /boot               1.9G    49.8M     1.7G   8%  ext3    
/dev/hda5          /home              28.1G    14.6G    12.1G  57%  ext3    
/dev/hda6          /mnt/games         15.2G     9.9G     4.6G  70%  ext3    
/dev/hdg1          /mnt/media        146.7G    97.1G    42.2G  71%  ext3    
/dev/hdb1          /mnt/station       38.1G     6.6G    31.6G  17%  reiserfs
tmpfs              /tmp              504.3M     6.4M   497.9M   1%  tmpfs   
/dev/hdb5          /var                3.8G     1.1G     2.8G  28%  reiserfs

/mnt/media contains about 3000 MP3s and ~30 full length DVDs. 8)


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#19 2005-11-29 23:10:12

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

must...resist...jokes...
/me washes mouth out with soap


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#20 2005-11-29 23:18:55

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

cactus wrote:

must...resist...jokes...
/me washes mouth out with soap

Go ahead, I know you are thinking "ZOMG PR0N!!!!!" Actually though, that's in my /home directory. 8)


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#21 2005-11-30 02:16:53

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Mr Green wrote:

Well Xmas is coming

What would you go for more Ram (some nice low-lat shiny things)

or a

Larger Hard Drive (sata maybe)

:?:

more ram almost always yields considerable system performance. I don't have a sata drive but I've heard they don't make that much of a difference.

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#22 2005-11-30 03:58:12

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

The first generation SATA didn't add a whole lot except making the cables nicer (any chance I have to ditch a ribbon cable I'll take) but the second generation that you will see take the market soon improve a lot on speed and such.

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#23 2005-11-30 04:15:49

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Pick Me!
so you dunno what to get just give me your money I can surley get something!


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#24 2005-11-30 04:29:03

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

I'd go RAM! I'm running 512MB and the need for more is obvious when I do anything with large media files or work with any of my GIS datasets. I'm dropping a 2GB matched pair in this box soon.

That said, I also see the need for more disk space. I've got a 40GB and 80GB both IDE and although I don't use all of the space, I can see how someone could. Hell, some games take 5GB now.

Anyway, I'd just drop in some RAM until you need more disk space.

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#25 2005-11-30 04:30:08

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Re: More Ram or bigger hard drive

Mr Green wrote:

Like I got 512mb atm .... maybe more would help  :?

Hard drive I got 120gb total IDE .... sata with a large cache 8mb+ maybe

I wish I had 512, I only have 320 on a 700 MHz P3. What should I get?

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