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#1 2013-05-02 02:32:42

Malvineous
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[SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Hi all,

I upgraded my system the other day and Evince seems to have disappeared, or at least been replaced by some other much more limited PDF viewer.  All the toolbar buttons are different, there are no view settings and the mouse wheel no longer works when scrolling pages.

Why was evince removed?  It was a really good small PDF viewer.

Last edited by Malvineous (2013-05-02 04:57:04)

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#2 2013-05-02 02:41:39

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

It seems to be there....

ewaller$@$odin ~ [1]1005 %pacman -Ss evince
extra/evince 3.8.0-1 (gnome)
    Simply a document viewer
ewaller$@$odin ~ 1006 %

I seem to be confused.  It would appear to me that we still have the version from upstream.  What ever do you mean?


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#3 2013-05-02 03:01:12

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?


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#4 2013-05-02 04:20:43

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Sorry not sure how the other thread is related, it seems to be about theming?  How would theming stop the mouse wheel from scrolling pages?

It seems that evince is indeed installed, but it's a completely different program to before.  Do you know whether there was some major upstream change where they decided to change the whole UI and remove a bunch of features??  That seems a little odd.

I have searched around a lot but there's no mention of evince changing which is why I'm so confused!

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#5 2013-05-02 04:47:03

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

I do not use the Gnome environment, but it is clear there have been significant changes upstream.  As a rolling release, the developers here have done their due diligence and have the latest version available.

We have no control over design decisions made upstream.


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#6 2013-05-02 04:56:49

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Ohhhh right, now it makes sense!  Sorry I don't use Gnome either so I had no idea Evince was Gnome-based - nothing else on my system has changed appearance except for Evince and that's what threw me.

Right so it looks like I'm off to find some old Gnome packages until I can find an alternative lightweight PDF reader since Evince seems to have been crippled for some reason.

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

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#7 2013-05-02 07:14:03

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Let me point at Ocular, if you don't mind the KDE deps.

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#8 2013-05-02 11:26:17

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Evince is sill there, but has undergone a lot of UI changes. All the functionality is still there, but the menu layout changed.

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#9 2013-05-02 15:18:52

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Are you sure you are opening the PDF with Evince? Try starting it from the command line.
I had the same problem and realized it is opened with a document previewer and not Evince...

Edit: The previewer can be started with 'evince-previewer'.

Last edited by Radioactiveman (2013-05-02 21:15:18)

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#10 2013-05-02 22:31:11

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Yuk, I don't like these changes to Evince either.
Qpdfview is rapidly becoming my favourite PDF viewer.
wink

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#11 2013-05-02 22:49:53

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

I second Okular.


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#12 2013-05-02 23:02:29

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Thanks for the suggestions, I will try Okular and Qpdfview.

@Radioactiveman: I'm definitely opening Evince, running it from the command line gives me the same crippled interface.

@mjb: Are you sure all the functionality is still there?  Could you please tell me how to make the new Evince to default to "zoom to fit page" every time you open a PDF?  Currently it defaults to "zoom to fit width" so the bottom of the page is out of view every time I open a file.  Can you also tell me how I set the mouse wheel to scroll through pages?  In this new version the mouse wheel does not move between pages and I have to keep clicking the toolbar buttons which is very slow.  Both of these features worked flawlessly with the old Evince.

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#13 2013-05-02 23:05:38

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

zathura for the win smile

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#14 2013-05-03 00:28:21

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

In defense of evince... I still use it, even after last update.

Not sure about gnome, or others, but in xfce4 it runs fine..and the scroll works.

smile

With customization, and preferences, among the top, I still *LOVE* evince.

Thank you, coders, fellow supporters, bug team, and everyone else involved with evince.

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#15 2013-05-03 02:05:07

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

I'm using Atril, the Evince used in the old Gnome 2.32, now for Mate.


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#16 2013-05-03 02:42:06

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

ninian wrote:

Yuk, I don't like these changes to Evince either.
Qpdfview is rapidly becoming my favourite PDF viewer.
wink

Thanks. I did not know this existed. Bye evince.

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#17 2013-05-03 05:24:22

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Malvineous wrote:

Are you sure all the functionality is still there?  Could you please tell me how to make the new Evince to default to "zoom to fit page" every time you open a PDF?  Currently it defaults to "zoom to fit width" so the bottom of the page is out of view every time I open a file.  Can you also tell me how I set the mouse wheel to scroll through pages?  In this new version the mouse wheel does not move between pages and I have to keep clicking the toolbar buttons which is very slow.  Both of these features worked flawlessly with the old Evince.

That seems odd. Are you 100% sure you are not using the previewer? In the previewer the mouse wheel indeed does not scroll through pages and the default view is set to "zoom to fit width". Both is not true for the regular evince. Could you post a screenshot?

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#18 2013-05-03 08:24:52

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

@mjb: Oh, well that's quite odd.  If I run "evince-previewer" I get a different program ("GNOME Document Previewer") with a button to fit-to-page and the mouse wheel does scroll between pages for me.  But running "evince" gets me the crippled program with no mouse wheel support.

Here's a screenshot:

http://www.shikadi.net/files/arch/evince.png

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#19 2013-05-03 08:37:08

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Malvineous wrote:

Oh, well that's quite odd.  If I run "evince-previewer" I get a different program ("GNOME Document Previewer") with a button to fit-to-page and the mouse wheel does scroll between pages for me.  But running "evince" gets me the crippled program with no mouse wheel support.

Odd indeed. But the dropdown menu that says "74.05%" should feature a fit-to-page button. About the mouse wheel support: for me it is the other way around.

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#20 2013-05-03 11:29:43

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

I'm not liking this new version either. What I liked about the old version was the ability to customize the toolbar. That's gone now.


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#21 2015-03-17 09:55:14

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

mjb wrote:
Malvineous wrote:

Oh, well that's quite odd.  If I run "evince-previewer" I get a different program ("GNOME Document Previewer") with a button to fit-to-page and the mouse wheel does scroll between pages for me.  But running "evince" gets me the crippled program with no mouse wheel support.

Odd indeed. But the dropdown menu that says "74.05%" should feature a fit-to-page button. About the mouse wheel support: for me it is the other way around.

Sure, evince didn't disappear. There are two programs related to evince:

1. evince-previewer - has poor toolbar, scrolling only within single page etc.

2. evince - full-featured evince.

It is actual for evince 3.10.3.

In context of topic-starter it seems that something went wrong during system upgrade. So it led to disparity in GNOME packages and resource files. And mouse wheel support isn't an issue in evince itself.

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#22 2015-03-17 11:57:37

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Re: [SOLVED] What happened to evince?

Welcome to the forums yuriysechko.  Please check out our forum guidelines which discourage "necrobumping" old threads - especially solved threads like this one.  A lot changes in two years.

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