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#1 2013-05-16 12:45:59

aleksandar1986
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can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

hello everyone!
i'm using arch linux for 2 years (on hp probook 4720s) and i never have any problem with installation, until today. i downloaded torrent for 2013.05.01 from download page, burn on cd and boot....but for the first time i got that message:


ERROR: '/dev/disk/by-label/ARCH_201305' device did not show up after 30 seconds...
Falling back to interactive promt
You can try to fix the problem manually, log out when you are finished
sh: can't access tty: job control turned off

i'm not expert, just a normal, average user who always install arch with unofficial beginners' guide help.
so, what can i do now? pls help!

p.s. i know, my english is bad sad and if i broke any forum rules, sorry, this is my first topic.

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#2 2013-05-16 15:28:48

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

Your boot loader cannot find the volume with the label "ARCH_201305".  Presumably, that is the root partition. So the boot loader and or kernel have no idea what do do next and are asking for help. 

As to why? I don't know.  This is another probook 4720?  Is this a new machine, or one that already had Arch installed?  Can this machine boot from USB? Have you tried booting your CD on another computer?


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#3 2013-05-16 18:27:06

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

first. thanks for your answer.
no, i have only one laptop . i bought that laptop (hp probook 4720s) over two years ago i formated hard disk and then i installed arch linux. couple of times (4-5) i reinstal arch (just for practise, i was bored... smile ) like i tried today. i burn first cd and got that problem, then i burn second cd and same thing, then i tried with usb (using UNetbootin software) with same result. i never had a problem instaling arch on my hp probook before. i tried cd that i was burn today, on sister's desktop, but everything is go fine, without error (i didn't installed, i just want to see is everything is ok with cd).


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#4 2013-05-16 18:45:53

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

aleksandar1986 wrote:

then i tried with usb (using UNetbootin software)

Don't do that. Write the image to the usb with dd, as stated on the download page.

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#5 2013-05-16 19:25:15

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

thanks falconindy for answer, but i tried UNetbootin software on sister's desktop computer with windows 7... just to see what happend... same thing sad
i can try with dd command if you think that will solved the problem...

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#6 2013-05-16 19:32:04

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

I wouldn't have suggested it if I didn't think that unetbootin was the problem (as exhibited by countless threads on this forum).

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#7 2013-05-17 18:05:21

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

i got same error after i created disk image with dd command!


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#8 2013-05-17 18:53:58

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

aleksandar1986 wrote:

i got same error after i created disk image with dd command!

And what was this command you used.....

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#9 2013-05-17 19:52:55

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

i write the iso image to a usb using this tutorial USB Installation Media, and i got same error.


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#10 2013-05-17 20:00:15

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

When booting and getting into the menu, BEFORE you select x32 or x64, you press tab or whatever options you have, and edit the boot parameters for that. And you append/add/write in (to the end, or in between some other parameters):
archisolabel=ARCH_2013XX
You will have to get it right, the date I mean, probably you will have to use: " archisolabel=ARCH_201305 "

+Info:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US … _USB_drive (this talks about USB, but here you can see the boot parameter I was talking about)
http://bbs.archbang.org/viewtopic.php?id=3141  (here you can see that parameter to boot)
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97967


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#11 2013-05-18 14:40:46

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

@ubunchu

thx fo advice...i try to put ARCH_20130501 but same thing happend...

but, i found in my room cd with arch 2012.12 (with that disc i reinstall arch last time) and i put in cd drive and it's working....my question is: can i install arch with that disc (2012.12) ?


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#12 2013-05-19 02:07:34

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

@aleksandar1986 "ARCH_20130501" or "ARCH_201305"? this is from my custom built archiso, and this is the boot parameter: http://imgur.com/ko5bPjt (screenshot from qemu)
from within that same image, I changed "04" to "05" (which makes it incorrect) and this is what happened http://imgur.com/Onsx2IK (this is in my case)

archlinux in rolling release, therefore even a 5 year old arch install could be updated
so yeah, you sure can (though you will have to keep an eye for the homepage, important notes, etc)
you can even install from another linux, or with netinstall

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#13 2013-05-19 12:24:12

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

aleksandar1986 wrote:

@ubunchu

thx fo advice...i try to put ARCH_20130501 but same thing happend...

but, i found in my room cd with arch 2012.12 (with that disc i reinstall arch last time) and i put in cd drive and it's working....my question is: can i install arch with that disc (2012.12) ?

Do not use the old disk for installation. But you can still use it to download the latest iso.
The archisolabel consists of ARCH_ + Year + month . That means with the latest iso you have to write

ARCH_201305

Taken from build.sh help page:
-L <iso_label>     Set an iso label (disk label)
                        Default: ARCH_201305

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#14 2013-05-19 19:40:52

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Re: can't access tty: job control turned off ?!

@ubunchu
i have same boot parametars like you on your first picture, except in my case its ... archisolabel=ARCH_201305
i downloaded torrent for 2013.05.01 from official download page [ https://www.archlinux.org/download/ ] and i got same message/error like you on your second picture.

teateawhy wrote:

Do not use the old disk for installation.

thx!

i can't understand how can i install normaly without any error on my sister's desktop, but with the same cd i got that error on my laptop?! mistery?


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