iPad

Llama · 2013-06-20 05:29:51

Hi,

The info on the Web is scarce and confusing. Are there real options (the right way, the wrong way, the Arch way)? 'As is' it's seen as a 'Camera', unmountable (KDE).

$ lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Optical Mouse
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05ac:12ab Apple, Inc.

hydrosIII · 2013-06-20 05:52:39

Hi im the not so proud owner of an iphone and i can tell you that i can connect it to my arch computer, not without hassle, usulaly i have to unplug it / replug it before it gets mounted well, in this case nautilus does the job for me. unfortunately i have not found the way to put music into it so i only use it as a telephone (kind of useles, isn't it?)

And of course i think there is a way, but i think is more the wrong way. As far as i know the best thing to communicate with this kind of devices is to jailbreak them, its not the safest method but is the one that has more probabilities to work. If you jaiilbreak then you can install something like ifile or software to put your ipad in usb mode. Also there's software to communicate from bluetooth as i think that ipad can only communicatwe by default to other apple devices. Also you can install openssh into it and connect via arch. I think this solution is the more archer. You can find tutorials about jailbreaking in the web.

I hope this helps, there should be other methods however, instead of these ugly workaarounds.
For me : lesson learnt, never buy apple again.

tomk · 2013-06-20 08:06:05

Llama wrote:

The info on the Web is scarce and confusing. Are there real options (the right way, the wrong way, the Arch way)?

I used ifuse when I had an iPad - worked fine.

However, your post is too vague - you need to detail what you want to do, what you have tried so far, and what the results were.

Llama · 2013-06-20 10:03:41

Upload of files of any kind is the task. Correct mounting is [presumably] the requisite.

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Llama · 2013-06-20 12:43:13

$ ifuse /mnt/ --root
Failed to start AFC service 'com.apple.afc2' on the device.
This service enables access to the root filesystem of your device.
Your device needs to be jailbroken and have the AFC2 service installed.

What are possible next steps?

The ArchWiki expects no problem:

# ifuse <mountpoint>
The mountpoint field is where you want to have it mounted.
And you're done!

Like that!

On a mountpoint in /home:

$ ifuse /home/user/iPad/
alexey@aardbox ~ $ ls /home/user/iPad
ls: cannot access /home/user/iPad: Transport endpoint is not connected

Llama · 2013-06-21 06:02:22

I did more research on this forum. Usually it just works, unlike me...
I've not got any iPad device node, have I? Should it exist no matter what?

$ sudo lsusb
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 093a:2510 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Optical Mouse
Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05ac:12ab Apple, Inc.

$ ls /dev
autofs char dri hpet log mqueue port rtc sdb1 sr0 tty1 tty15 tty20 tty26 tty31 tty37 tty42 tty48 tty53 tty59 tty7 ttyS3 vcs1 vcs7 vcsa5 watchdog0
block console fb0 hugepages loop-control net ppp rtc0 sdb2 stderr tty10 tty16 tty21 tty27 tty32 tty38 tty43 tty49 tty54 tty6 tty8 uinput vcs2 vcsa vcsa6 zero
bsg core fd initctl mapper network_latency psaux sda sdb3 stdin tty11 tty17 tty22 tty28 tty33 tty39 tty44 tty5 tty55 tty60 tty9 urandom vcs3 vcsa1 vcsa7
btrfs-control cpu full input mcelog network_throughput ptmx sda1 shm stdout tty12 tty18 tty23 tty29 tty34 tty4 tty45 tty50 tty56 tty61 ttyS0 vboxdrv vcs4 vcsa2 vga_arbiter
bus cpu_dma_latency fuse kmsg mei null pts sda2 snapshot tty tty13 tty19 tty24 tty3 tty35 tty40 tty46 tty51 tty57 tty62 ttyS1 vboxusb vcs5 vcsa3 vhost-net
cdrom disk hidraw0 kvm mem parport0 random sdb snd tty0 tty14 tty2 tty25 tty30 tty36 tty41 tty47 tty52 tty58 tty63 ttyS2 vcs vcs6 vcsa4 watchdog

hydrosIII · 2013-06-21 06:39:18

Hi Llama, reading this post has make me start to experiment with my iphone again, to put some music into it an i have found useful information in the Gentoo wiki (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_iPod,_iPad,_iPhone) and the Debian wiki regarding iphone (http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone) . The Debian wiki is complete. Also you can try the external sources in the gentoo wiki. There's also a channel in freenode regarding iphone #gtkpod.

Hope this helps

tomk · 2013-06-21 06:48:41

Llama, no, there is no device node for the iPad - it's not a normal usb storage device.

Llama · 2013-06-21 06:57:01

tomk wrote:

Llama, no, there is no device node for the iPad - it's not a normal usb storage device.

Yet it has to be created, has it not? I'll have to mount it.

Llama · 2013-06-21 10:33:30

hydrosIII wrote:

Hi Llama, reading this post has make me start to experiment with my iphone again, to put some music into it an i have found useful information in the Gentoo wiki (https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Apple_iPod,_iPad,_iPhone) and the Debian wiki regarding iphone (http://wiki.debian.org/iPhone) . The Debian wiki is complete. Also you can try the external sources in the gentoo wiki. There's also a channel in freenode regarding iphone #gtkpod.
Hope this helps

Thanks, hydrosIII! Debian article looks very promising. Unfortunately, I can't add myself to the fuse group, because it doesn't exist:

$ usermod -aG fuse me
usermod: group 'fuse' does not exist

Which looks funny, as fuse itself seems to be present on the system.

tomk · 2013-06-21 14:23:50

Debian has decided fuse needs its own group - Arch has not, as it works just fine without it. I guess you'll need to adapt the Debian article accordingly.

And no, the device node does not have to be created - you are using fuse precisely because a device node does not, and cannot, exist in this case. You can learn more about fuse if you like, by reading the man page etc.

Llama · 2013-06-21 18:00:56

tomk wrote:

And no, the device node does not have to be created - you are using fuse precisely because a device node does not, and cannot, exist in this case.

Thanks! I'll keep than in mind.

tomk wrote:

You can learn more about fuse if you like, by reading the man page etc.

Actually, I don't fancy learning everything about a subject which somehow managed to stay under the hood, where it belongs, for years. Kind of heresy, I know, but I should much prefer a bit of easy copy/pasting.

tomk · 2013-06-22 00:08:00

Well, ok then - good luck!

Trilby · 2013-06-22 00:20:48

Llama wrote:

Actually, I don't fancy learning everything about a subject which somehow managed to stay under the hood, where it belongs, for years. Kind of heresy, I know, but I should much prefer a bit of easy copy/pasting.

I don't suspect it was meant as such - so perhaps pointing it out may make you reconsider your approach - but this is a very offensive statement. Tomk pointed to you the information you need, but you refuse to read/think/learn, and you expect tomk, or someone else, to do everything for you ... this is how that reads to me.

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cfr · 2013-06-22 01:03:51

I actually read that somewhat more charitably as saying that the OP wanted to just copy/paste from the Debian article rather than asking for somebody to provide the commands especially here. While that might not be the best approach from either a moral or prudential perspective, it is not necessarily offensive so long as the OP does not return expecting somebody else to sort out problems encountered as a result of blindly copying and pasting commands intended for use on another system.

Trilby · 2013-06-22 01:26:14

That's part of why I don't think it was intentional. But intentional or not, it may affect other would be helpers. If lama wants only to copy and paste, then there is no point starting a forum thread. If the thread was started before the debian source for copy/paste material was found, then this should be marked as solved. If continued help is sought, then the OP should be open to receiving that help.

cfr · 2013-06-22 01:40:57

I don't disagree. I just thought it might not reflect quite such offensive expectations.

Llama · 2013-07-03 09:14:35

Looks very much like this bug.

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