Xorg 7.0 modular

krigun · 2005-12-23 19:33:05

Just curious.. Has anyone got the xorg7 working with the proprietary nvidia driver? I had tons of trouble with this last night, so I ended up running with the nv driver instead.

I tried both the nvidia driver from arch repos with the arch kernel, and a custom kernel with the the driver from nvidia.com. The driver compiled though, but xorg complained that it could not find it.

Im going to do a reinstall as proposed above anyways, since my system is fubar after yesterdays session.

ganja_guru · 2005-12-24 02:35:17

krigun: yes it works perfectly. glx gears is actually 'smooth' with a nice framerate.. 15200 fps or so for me..

ganja_guru · 2005-12-24 02:44:13

No major issues, except,

1). I'm trying to get all buttons including the tilt wheel to work using this guide http://floam.sh.nu/guides/mx1000

It tells me to use 'evdev' as the driver in xorg.conf for my mouse. Doing this leaves me staring at a frozen NVIDIA screen. Yes, i have installed the xf86-input-evdev driver..all the buttons and the tilt wheel used to work fine in xorg 6.8.2

2) I've installed compositeproto and libxcomposite, but the composite manager fails to load in KDE. I assume this is because the new path is "/usr/include/X11". How do I change this..?

thanks.

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-24 08:06:55

I too was getting lock ups just using the evdev driver setting...

Not only do you have to use the evdev driver, I also had to set up a udev rule for the mouse. Here is what I did for my mouse (MX700)...

1. Created a rules file (Called 10-local.rules and put it into the /etc/udev/rules.d directory). Put this into the file:

KERNEL=="event*", SYSFS{manufacturer}=="Logitech", SYSFS{product}=="USB Receiver", NAME=="input/mx700", MODE=="0644"

You may have to change the NAME and may have to change the USB Receiver to your own physical interface (PS/2, or what ever).

2. Once that is complete, and I did a udevstart or reboot, I had to add this to my xorg.conf file...

in Section

Section "ServerLayout"

I changed

InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"

to

InputDevice    "Logitech MX700" "CorePointer"

Then, for that to work, I had to make the following changes to

Section "InputDevice"

Like this...

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Logitech MX700"
    Driver         "evdev"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mx700"
EndSection

Notice that the Device is what the udev rule creates in /dev...

Then, reboot or restart X and it worked great for me. Also, imwheel works like a charm with it to provide me with access to all my buttons and such; other, similar button apps should work as well.

Hope this at least gets some of you on the right track. I spent HOURS tracking down this information for my machine, maybe if you know basically where to start, it wont take some of you too long.

Good Luck with the transition...

Joe

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-12-24 08:44:11

Thats nice.

I still had problems to start gdm. I was able to start gnome doing

startx gnome-session

, but can't start gdm. I changed the X-Environments inside /opt/gnome/etc/gdm/gdm.conf to fit the new paths - /usr/bin/X instead of /usr/X11Rb/bin/X, and it does it's job now:

[servers]
0=Standard
[server-Standard]
name=Standard server
#command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 
command=/usr/bin/X -audit 0 
flexible=true

[server-Terminal]
name=Terminal server
#command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 -terminate
command=/usr/bin/X -audit 0 -terminate

[server-Chooser]
name=Chooser server
#command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0
command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0

flexible=false
chooser=true

JGC · 2005-12-24 10:48:59

You can use evdev for both mouse and keyboard. You have to specify the device then. Without the udev rule, keyboard and mouse will be assigned /dev/input/event0 and event1, where event0 is my keyboard and event1 is my mouse (I have keyboard support compiled in my kernel while psmouse and hid are a module, this makes sure keyboard comes before mouse all the time)

Only problem I have with evdev: gnome-settings-daemon segfaults because of a bug in libxklavier somehow

ganja_guru · 2005-12-24 12:29:21

thanks EmbraceThePenguin, everything working perfectly now. I had to change Manufacturer and Product to suit my mouse.. to anyone else trying to get this done all the info you need for the custom udev rule is in /proc/bus/input/devices

I: Bus=0003 Vendor=045e Product=008c Version=0057
N: Name="Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse® 1.0A"
P: Phys=usb-0000:06:08.1-1/input0
H: Handlers=mouse0 event0
B: EV=7
B: KEY=1f0000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
B: REL=1c3

so for me, i had to do this:

KERNEL=="event*", SYSFS{manufacturer}=="Microsoft", SYSFS{product}=="Microsoft Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse® 1.0A", NAME=="input/whatever", MODE=="0644"

basically, you can have NAME==/input/whatever, but you have to make suitable changes in xorg.conf

now only if i can get composite and kdm to play with xorg 7.0

mawch · 2005-12-24 15:33:11

Moo-Crumpus wrote:

Thats nice.
I still had problems to start gdm. I was able to start gnome doing
startx gnome-session
, but can't start gdm. I changed the X-Environments inside /opt/gnome/etc/gdm/gdm.conf to fit the new paths - /usr/bin/X instead of /usr/X11Rb/bin/X, and it does it's job now:
[servers]
0=Standard
[server-Standard]
name=Standard server
#command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 
command=/usr/bin/X -audit 0 
flexible=true

[server-Terminal]
name=Terminal server
#command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0 -terminate
command=/usr/bin/X -audit 0 -terminate

[server-Chooser]
name=Chooser server
#command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0
command=/usr/X11R6/bin/X -audit 0

flexible=false
chooser=true

great!this solve the problem which bother me a whole day! thanks!

mawch · 2005-12-24 16:54:41

After update to xorg7,when I play a movie with xine,the movie is slowly.how can Ido?

sven · 2005-12-24 17:58:16

Here are my experiences with this newest xorg:

Positive:
1) a lot faster than than 6.8.2
2) mouse works like charm with evdev (followed the advices on this topic)

Problems this far:
1) kdm doesn't work anymore
2) I am using ati - driver and some 3d applications don't work properly (for exaple gens (Megadrive emulator)) and Solar Winds screensaver. The screen is split up and the right half of it is blank and black while the perfectly working 3d stuff is at the left side.
3) xmms double size function doesn't work right. xmms crashes immediately with this message:
Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
serial 7403 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0

cmf · 2005-12-24 20:11:34

Here's how to fix KDM

Add the following line to in /opt/kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc

"ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X -br"
(minus the ""'s)

In the section
[X-*-Core]

That'll fix it.

One problem i'm having myself is the nvidia driver is being compilled with a different version than what the kernel was compilled with, so i can't test the driver and composite.

Anyone have any news on what it's like stability-wise now?

Thanks

jinn · 2005-12-24 21:29:02

I updated xorg-server.. had the first 7.0 release and direct rendering was working fine.. but now dri is of because of the upgrade.. weird..

I have the i915 driver for my laptop.. anyone experiencing the same problem?

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-25 03:58:15

Hey, what is the fix for using evdev for the keyboard and still having virtual consoles (ctrl+alt+f1-f6). I can't figure that one out?

Thanks!!!

Joe

ganja_guru · 2005-12-25 04:28:15

does anyone have composite working yet?

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-25 04:47:53

ganja_guru wrote:

does anyone have composite working yet?

Yeah, I am using it and it works great.

In fact, with the 8178 nvidia driver and Xorg 7.0, its super stable and really sharp.

Joe

ganja_guru · 2005-12-25 05:32:58

what did you have to do to get composite working? I installed libxcomposite and compositeproto, but KDE still says that the composite manager crashed on startup..

EmbraceThePenguin · 2005-12-25 06:50:52

ganja_guru wrote:

what did you have to do to get composite working? I installed libxcomposite and compositeproto, but KDE still says that the composite manager crashed on startup..

All I did was enable the following in xorg.conf:

Section "Extensions"
    Option         "Composite" "Enable"
    Option         "RENDER" "Enable"
EndSection

And set up transparency in the Window Behavior area in the control center. That was it. Oh, you might have to restart X if you enable that stuff in xorg.conf. Any, you can simply log out and back in once you enable the options in Control Center...

Good Luck...

Joe

sven · 2005-12-25 07:08:53

thanks cmf for that KDM tip!

Anyone else having trouble with their ATI radeon and xorg's ati driver? I have tried radeon driver, too, but using it 3d acceleration doesn't work at all.

Here is a screencap of the problem:

Those squares that seem to be at 3d image part are not visible in actual image.

ganja_guru · 2005-12-25 07:50:13

I was missing libxdamage and damageproto.. I installed that and now I'm able to use composite. I use the RenderAccel option with my NVIDIA 7200gtx and the latest drivers (8178), but I'd say composite is still far from perfect.. : ( A lot of render issues still exist, especially while opening new windows and minimizing and maximizing..) Can't wait for this stuff to become seamless.

ganja_guru · 2005-12-25 08:23:11

Windeco's have something to do with the composite render errors.. I changed the windeco to "glow" from "smoothblend" and things seem a little better now. Splash screens (especially moodin engine based) still suck.

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-12-25 11:09:37

x.org 7 from testing is a draft, I hope. A lot of things are broken or you need massive hacks to fix it. I hope it will stay in testing until things are tide up.

T-Dawg · 2005-12-25 11:14:52

well xfce4 is completely fscked with it -loads up slow as death. We'll probably have to wait until thats fixed upstream.

ganja_guru · 2005-12-25 11:34:50

I'm actually starting to like the modular system, though I'll admit I had reservations about it initially. Thanks a bunch JGC, and everyone else involved in making xorg 7.0 a reality!

jinn · 2005-12-25 11:46:49

btw.. I tried out xcomposite and stuff. worked damned god without direct rendering on with only 500fps.. Just one problem.. why that hell does firefox crash all the time just because of xcomposite is running.. really annoying gotta say..

Moo-Crumpus · 2005-12-25 11:47:55

I can't retrace the others yelling how snappy and fast the modular version was. I had no speedup at all.

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