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#501 2013-07-30 15:06:07

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

This seems to be a re-occurring issue here. Perhaps the "pacman -Syyu" fix should be added to the infinality wiki entry ?


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#502 2013-07-30 15:12:09

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

It is a wiki... so you could always add this.  But in this case, I strongly agree about this addition, so I went ahead and added a note on the bottom of the infinality-bundle section.

@flipperT, please fix it up as you see fit.

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#503 2013-07-30 15:16:24

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I will do so. That's funny because I mentioned this action in the very first post: page 1. However, mentioning the hint in the Wiki seems wise. Thank you.

Edit: and one more thank you, WonderWoofy. smile

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#504 2013-07-30 15:34:22

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

bohoomil wrote:

I will do so. That's funny because I mentioned this action in the very first post: page 1.

That's why I thought redDEADresolve already tried it. Maybe you could rephrase it or change

Before installation/upgrade, don't forget to run

pacman -Syu

to say 'pacman -Syyu' instead?

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#505 2013-07-30 15:53:45

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

WonderWoofy wrote:

It is a wiki... so you could always add this.  But in this case, I strongly agree about this addition, so I went ahead and added a note on the bottom of the infinality-bundle section.

@flipperT, please fix it up as you see fit.


thx

Just wanted to run the idea past you guys first. Never contributed to the wiki, but will read up on it.


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#506 2013-07-30 16:10:05

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

karol wrote:

That's why I thought redDEADresolve already tried it. Maybe you could rephrase it or change

Before installation/upgrade, don't forget to run

pacman -Syu

to say 'pacman -Syyu' instead?

Sure, thanks for the tip -- done.


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#507 2013-08-16 03:16:50

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

What's up with the servers?

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#508 2013-08-16 03:23:39

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Hspasta wrote:

What's up with the servers?

Try again. It is working for me now but wasn't earlier.


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#509 2013-08-16 17:24:10

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I'm having similar issues (intermittently) with the servers.

Deleting the infinality databases in /var/lib/pacman/sync/ didn't really help and neither did pacman -Syy

Sometimes infinality-bundle.db would download, but not infinality-bundle-multilib.db and vice versa.

Most of the time (these last few days) I've been getting:

error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle.db' from ibn.net63.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed to update infinality-bundle (download library error)
error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle-multilib.db' from ibn.net63.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds

Edit: Added (these last few days) smile

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#510 2013-08-16 17:29:11

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

It still works for me most of the time.  But sometimes I too get the "Operation too slow" error.  Interestingly, it will time out one moment, and then start magically working well just a couple seconds later.

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#511 2013-08-16 21:39:38

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

It does seem very random. Earlier, I got straight timeout messages (not the "too slow" ones). Now it just works without issue.


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#512 2013-08-16 22:40:07

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

FWIW, I can see this happen as well. I suppose such hiccups occur when the server is overloaded and premium accounts are granted higher priority over free ones to access system resources. I monitor the performance on a daily basis and I can always access the control panel and the FTP, so the repository is really never out of service. Since the packages aren't updated frequently, no one should worry about being unable to download them when necessary. Anyway, sorry for the inconvenience…


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#513 2013-08-16 22:54:18

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

It really isn't a problem for me. It always resolves and it only slows pacman's updating by a couple of seconds. I suspect people may just worry they are doing something wrong.

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#514 2013-08-17 12:15:40

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Love this, tried it when this thread first started and gotta admit, didn't like it.  Just tried again and it's the best font rendering I've seen on any linux.

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#515 2013-08-20 05:21:05

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

bohoomil, I thought you might be interested in this: http://practicaltypography.com/ (if you haven't read it already). 

BTW, I wanted to come to this thread, and I happened to be on a page where you posted, so I went to your "profile" and then "show all topics".  This is the only thread you have ever started!?

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#516 2013-08-20 07:13:19

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

WonderWoofy wrote:

http://practicaltypography.com/ (if you haven't read it already).

No, I haven't seen this one before -- thanks a lot for sharing the link. I will certainly add it to the bundle's references: it's an excellent source of information and a perfect after hours reading. smile

WonderWoofy wrote:

This is the only thread you have ever started!?

Well, yes, it is. I guess I've never had anything important to say, while the questions I've been asking myself are well covered either here or elsewhere.


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#517 2013-08-20 13:05:17

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

After installing the bundle I got some corruption on github has anyone the same issue: http://imageshack.com/i/2ic6o5p ?


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#518 2013-08-20 13:11:21

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Is it possible to enlarge the screenshot?


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#519 2013-08-20 13:31:22

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#520 2013-08-20 16:10:02

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

I suppose you mean GitHub's Octicons: click (Firefox 23.0.1)? I don't think that the issue is in any way produced by Infinality patches; more likely--this is my assumption--it's the way freetype2 deals with some webfonts. I experienced this once in the past, but one day all of a sudden everything started working correctly. I've never managed to reproduce it since, though.


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#521 2013-08-20 16:54:24

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Yes this was what I meant. In Chrome(ium) and Rekonq everything works fine.


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#522 2013-08-20 23:38:15

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

WonderWoofy wrote:

bohoomil, I thought you might be interested in this: http://practicaltypography.com/ (if you haven't read it already).

Shocking ignorance of LaTeX (and of free fonts) - or deliberate misinformation. The author claims to have never seen a document produced with LaTeX which got quotation marks right?!! No mention of Latin Modern or any of the other TeX-Gyre fonts... No mention of the fact that in LibreOffice there's no need to "print" to PDF or that pdfLaTeX produces PDF... well, directly.

And the *only* way to make sure your collaborators see the same document you do is to work on PDFs? Really?!

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#523 2013-08-21 01:33:19

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

The "proprietary" bias is quite unfortunate indeed… I think that leaving the author a note wouldn't be a bad idea: maybe this would encourage him to revise the paragraphs in question and rewrite them accordingly.

Your mentioning other formats than PDF reminded me of a little script I used some time ago. It should let you export the document to two more formats (ps, djvu).


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#524 2013-08-21 01:46:25

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

bohoomil wrote:

The "proprietary" bias is quite unfortunate indeed… I think that leaving the author a note wouldn't be a bad idea: maybe this would encourage him to revise the paragraphs in question and rewrite them accordingly.

I fear I would simply be dismissed as another of those people who write from time to time claiming LaTeX does typography well.

Your mentioning other formats than PDF reminded me of a little script I used some time ago. It should let you export the document to two more formats (ps, djvu).

I actually was thinking more of the fact that part of the point of TeX is that processing the same source on two different systems will produce the same result. The idea that you have to edit and annotate pdf files directly in order to see the same layout is just mad - not just because collaboratively writing in this way would be incredibly frustrating but also because you will not see the same thing if, for example, you use different pdf editors/viewers.

EDIT: V. interesting script, though. Does it still work? I've never heard of printkit?

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#525 2013-08-21 02:21:42

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Re: infinality-bundle: good looking fonts made (even) easier

Interesting... I didn't actually read more than the first few sentences, but just thought that a write up of fonts would be interesting to those who really care deeply about fonts.  For me, I enjoy having these nice fonts, but do not really desire to dig into that world in order to achieve it.  Hence, I put full trust in font configuration in the hands of bohoomil (who's font configurations I had used before this, and also gotten help from in getting said configurations right).

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