Project ARM :: Arch Rollback Machine

fukawi2 · 2013-08-18 23:56:43

A dedicated server at Hetzner [1] is 49€/month for:
- 2 x 2tb HDD
- Core i7
- 32gb RAM
- 1git connection, guaranteed at 200mbps with 20tb traffic
- IPv6

Although the hard drives are only 7200rpm, probably not a huge issue for this use. Lots of RAM to cache frequently accessed files.

I would be happy to be part of a SysAdmin team to keep this project going.

[1] http://www.hetzner.de/en/hosting/produk … erver/ex40

wreiner · 2013-08-19 07:22:00

I have a Hetzner Server (but the old model) and just asked them about an upgrade and the costs of it.
If it's a reasonable price, i could offer a virtual machine to run the ARM.

Maybe we could implement a mirroring with DNS round robin so that the service is not hooked up on a single point?

Padfoot · 2013-08-19 08:33:01

Sad to see the ARM has ended. It has saved me more than a few times when I got a ambitious with patching and compiling (thanks to ABS for making it so easy for me to bork my system! )

Hopefully a replacement option will surface.

In the meantime, I am rsyncing my pacman cache to my NAS after each update so I have the option of rolling back if necessary.

fukawi2 · 2013-08-19 08:41:35

wreiner wrote:

Maybe we could implement a mirroring with DNS round robin so that the service is not hooked up on a single point?

I would be happy to implement and maintain an instance of Mirrorbrain

Sanne · 2013-08-19 12:13:27

Thanks also from me for a great service, sad to see it go. It has helped me once after an update freeze due to project deadlines, afterwards I could easily update in steps then via the ARM.

karol · 2013-08-19 12:18:39

https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=34421

Arch Linux - rolling release distro, where people are wanting to downgrade to a previous version

;P

Allan · 2013-08-19 12:56:35

@Karol: I think you got the wrong link there...

karol · 2013-08-19 12:58:26

Allan wrote:

@Karol: I think you got the wrong link there...

Why? This quote is his signature.

Allan · 2013-08-19 13:17:40

Maybe it is my secret admin powers, but that does not show his signature for me. Meh.

maxexcloo · 2013-08-19 13:29:51

If someone could post a how to on how to run an ARM like service I'd happily donate a bunch of server storage to it

x33a · 2013-08-19 13:49:41

Just now I visited the website to downgrade some packages (overzealous pacman cache cleaning) and saw that the address wasn't resolving. Searched the forums, and found this thread.

I have used ARM only a couple of times, but it was a very useful project. Thanks DisposaBoy for the service.

Seeing the comments here, maybe there will be an alternative eventually

Last edited by x33a (2013-08-19 13:50:15)

SidK · 2013-08-19 14:10:59

Instead of replacing one web server with another, how about a decentralised solution? I've seen some other posts touch on it. How about a system which automatically creates torrents of the packages and just lists the torrent files on the website, instead of the actual package.

This means:

Greatly reduced bandwidth for the ARM server
Existing http-based mirrors can be added as web-seeds, and load will be evenly divided across them (though I realise they would be stop working when they go out of date).
If the repository stays quite up to date, then this could also be used as the torrent based package distribution everyone has wanted.

Perhaps an RSS feed of the .torrent files could be published to help people automatically seed. People can also be more selective with what they seed, compared to say a bittorrent-sync shared folder. eg someone can seed only [core] or only packages from 2013 onwards.

Xyne · 2013-08-19 15:01:00

Allan wrote:

@Karol: I think you got the wrong link there...

karol wrote:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=34421
Arch Linux - rolling release distro, where people are wanting to downgrade to a previous version
;P

The signature is in the "personality" section: https://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?s … y&id=34421

Janhouse · 2013-08-19 16:37:04

Sad to hear that ARM is down. Thank you for maintaining it all this time.

Also I looked at the Mirrorbrain link that was posted here and it looks interesting.

I would not mind giving a couple hundred gigabytes on my server for Archlinux packages. But there should be more mirrors to get the stuff from in case some of the servers go down.

If we could make some nice scripts that handle this automagically, I would be one of the users.

felixonmars · 2013-08-20 02:07:18

We are preparing to setup a new A.R.M under archlinuxcn.org community server - on a clean KVM VPS with 200 GiB of storage.

Currently we're wondering if there're still scripts or something left so we don't reinvent the wheel, any help are welcome, thanks!

steve___ · 2013-08-20 03:06:24

fwiw, 200GB is approximately one years worth.

Amzo2 · 2013-08-20 07:53:14

I was wondering if you still had any of the files available. Specifically, the 2009/09/05 packages as I was using the repository daily for using ArchLinux base in FreeBSD, for the Linux binary compatibility.

If you do, could you let me know, so I can maybe clone or sync to my server.

Sanne · 2013-08-20 10:11:31

Great news, felixonmars, thank you!

WonderWoofy · 2013-08-20 14:12:03

steve___ wrote:

fwiw, 200GB is approximately one years worth.

One years worth would be pretty great all the same...

steve___ · 2013-08-20 14:25:05

Yeah better than nothing, that's for sure. Just an 'FYI' post.

reed1 · 2013-08-20 15:20:58

sad to hear the news

I never need to downgrade my package unless on this very day the project has been ceased wanna downgrade my libpng to 1.6.2, it's not in my cache cuz this is a clean install

x33a · 2013-08-20 16:14:37

@ reed1, you can always compile manually.

https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit … 4774bceb8c

semeion · 2013-08-22 02:19:16

Many thanks for a great service you provided all those years. [2]

maw · 2013-08-23 12:33:11

SidK wrote:

Instead of replacing one web server with another, how about a decentralised solution? I've seen some other posts touch on it. How about a system which automatically creates torrents of the packages and just lists the torrent files on the website, instead of the actual package.
This means:
Greatly reduced bandwidth for the ARM server
Existing http-based mirrors can be added as web-seeds, and load will be evenly divided across them (though I realise they would be stop working when they go out of date).
If the repository stays quite up to date, then this could also be used as the torrent based package distribution everyone has wanted.
Perhaps an RSS feed of the .torrent files could be published to help people automatically seed. People can also be more selective with what they seed, compared to say a bittorrent-sync shared folder. eg someone can seed only [core] or only packages from 2013 onwards.

This would be a great and bulletproof solution...

have you some idea how to implement this? I would like to participate in such a work...
this could be a proof of concept to redesign the package downloading using torrent?

phoenixlzx · 2013-08-23 13:27:23

Hello Archers,

As @felixonmars said, we are now preparing to set up a new A.R.M service. I've searched but got nothing, so we finally started from scratch.

Currently I have re-wrote the A.R.M server side script using Node.js, and @lilydjwg is working with package & database management, which could boost the new A.R.M server app. Sync script and daily-repo functionality will be done by @felixonmars.

We will contact the author of downgrade script to adopt our new API after we've got green light on our new platform , so that all need to be done by end users is to upgrade their downgrade package.

Of course, we wont lock these scripts and configurations in our brains. I will post a new article about how to make your own A.R.M service so anyone could make it. :-)

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