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#1 2013-07-20 06:52:41

weirddan455
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Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

I just upgraded to a Geforce GTX 770 (got sick of AMD and their abysmal OpenGL performance and horrible Linux support.)  I'm just having a couple issues with Nouveau.  First is it keeps spamming this message about every 30 seconds:

http://i.imgur.com/PaDytDo.jpg

I didn't know how to get a log of it so I just took a pic of the screen.

Also, I have a monitor that can go up to 144hz.  I'm using XFCE and in the XFCE display settings it shows up to 144hz as an option but it isn't actually setting because my monitor is still reporting the signal as 60hz in its menu.  The 144hz setting did work in the open source AMD driver and it also works in Windows 7 on my new Nvidia card.

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#2 2013-07-20 07:50:10

henk
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

A suggestion would be to change the video-driver to the proprietary nvidia driver.

pacman -S nvidia nvidia-libgl

After the installation you have to reboot to get the driver working.

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#3 2013-07-20 08:09:25

weirddan455
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

^^

I actually just did and it solved both of those problems.  I was just wanting to test the Nouveau driver first to see first hand how the open source side of Nvidia is progessing.  Still has a ways to go from the looks of it.  OpenArena ran fine on Nouveau but then agian that's based on the ancient Quake 3 engine.  Unigine Heaven refused to start at all on Nouveau but ran great on the proprietary Nvidia driver (and it got literally 4 times the FPS as my old Radeon 5970)

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#4 2013-07-20 09:46:39

karol
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

Nvidia's proprietary drivers are really really nice - both for the latest and also for the older cards :-)


Please remember to mark the thread as solved https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=130309

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#5 2013-07-21 01:15:22

nadman10
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

Are you getting any EDID errors?

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#6 2013-07-21 02:47:39

weirddan455
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

nadman10 wrote:

Are you getting any EDID errors?

Not sure.  How can I tell?

And I'm like to keep this thread open if you don't mind.  It's "solved" by going to the proprietaty driver but I'd like to find the cause of why Nouveau is doing this because I will probably be using it from time to time (in case the proprietary driver becomes incompatible with a kernel/Xorg update as well as just to test how the 3D preformace of the open source driver is coming along.)

Last edited by weirddan455 (2013-07-21 02:48:36)

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#7 2013-07-21 11:40:03

karol
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

Grep X log for the EDID errors - or any errors / warning.

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#8 2013-07-21 14:00:49

jrussell
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From: Cape Town, South Africa
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

weirddan455 wrote:

I just upgraded to a Geforce GTX 770 (got sick of AMD and their abysmal OpenGL performance and horrible Linux support.)  I'm just having a couple issues with Nouveau.  First is it keeps spamming this message about every 30 seconds:

http://i.imgur.com/PaDytDo.jpg

I didn't know how to get a log of it so I just took a pic of the screen.

Also, I have a monitor that can go up to 144hz.  I'm using XFCE and in the XFCE display settings it shows up to 144hz as an option but it isn't actually setting because my monitor is still reporting the signal as 60hz in its menu.  The 144hz setting did work in the open source AMD driver and it also works in Windows 7 on my new Nvidia card.

The more modern ATI cards with the OS ati driver seem much better to me than nouveau and Nvidia, what was your previous ATI card out of interest? The OS ATI driver is getting a lot of cool changes soon!


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#9 2013-07-23 22:57:15

weirddan455
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

jrussell wrote:

The more modern ATI cards with the OS ati driver seem much better to me than nouveau and Nvidia, what was your previous ATI card out of interest? The OS ATI driver is getting a lot of cool changes soon!

My last card was a Radeon 5970.  You're probably right that the open source AMD driver is better than Nouveau but neither are suitable for really anything more modern than the Quake 3 engine.  Even for basic computer usage though, the AMD open source driver ran my power usage way up.  I have a UPS that can monitor how many Watts my system was drawing and full system load idleing at desktop was something like 180W vs 90W with the only change going from open source to Catalyst.  For closed source drivers, Nvidia wins all the way.  AMD had zero support for CrossFire using OpenGL and even negating that droped the FPS nearly in half again just by switching the API from Direct3D to OpenGL.  Nvidia keeps performance much more consistent across APIs (not to mention they're way better at releasing driver updates for new Xorg releases and bug fixes in general.)

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#10 2013-08-28 16:16:40

weirddan455
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

I actually just did a reinstall (for unrelated reasons) and this issue was present during the August ISO (using a 3.10 kernel.) It persisted all the way through the install until I installed the closed source Nvidia driver. It was quite annoying as that spam message even showed while I was trying to edit conf files in nano.

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#11 2013-08-28 16:34:02

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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

In the future, or if you ever want to go back to the open-source driver, you can set the loglevel to the console from both dmesg in your running system, or from the kernel command line.  The latter has the advantage of making it so that you don't get spammed during the boot process either.  Neither of these things will change what is actually logged to dmesg or the journal.

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#12 2013-08-29 18:51:36

weirddan455
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

WonderWoofy wrote:

In the future, or if you ever want to go back to the open-source driver, you can set the loglevel to the console from both dmesg in your running system, or from the kernel command line.  The latter has the advantage of making it so that you don't get spammed during the boot process either.  Neither of these things will change what is actually logged to dmesg or the journal.

What's the command to do that? Is it just a parameter to the APPEND line in the bootloader? (Syslinux in my case)

Also does anyone know what that error even means? (pic in the OP) I can't make sense of it.

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#13 2013-08-29 19:49:50

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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

Please do a bit of your own research.  I guess I'll at least point you there.  See: man 8 dkms and /usr/src/linux-$(uname -r)/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt

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#14 2013-09-02 09:03:55

weirddan455
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

Would have taken you less time to just type the command if you knew it offhand...

dmesg -n 1

Now anyone searching this problem has an easy reference.

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#15 2013-09-02 19:12:17

WonderWoofy
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Re: Nouveau driver is spamming my console (also can't go higher than 60hz)

weirddan455 wrote:

Would have taken you less time to just type the command if you knew it offhand...

Yes, it would have taken less time to just tell you exactly what to type so that you could copy and paste it.  I do know it offhand, but the post of my post was to try to encourage you (and others) to do their own research.  Hand holding is discouraged around here, and there is the general expectation that members should be able to at least do a minimal amount of debugging and searching for their own information.

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