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#1 2013-10-07 15:56:40

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Problem with gvfs-obexftp

When I excute "pacman -Syu" I get this problem with gvfs-obexftp package !!! Whats the matter ??
A help please ...

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#2 2013-10-07 16:21:09

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mate-bluetooth/ seems unmaintained. Maybe you can update it to use gvfs instead.
mate-bluetooth from the unofficial [mate] repo also depends on gvfs-obexftp but gvfs-obexftp is also unmaintained https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gvfs-obexftp-lite/

Try recompiling mate-bluetooth or ask the mate folks what to do.

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#3 2013-10-07 19:34:08

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

gvfs-obexftp was just removed from official repo, no idea why (I used that with thunar/xfce4…)
EDIT:

Drop obexftp backend, not ported to bluez5, so not usable anymore since gnome-bluetooth was ported to Bluez5.

Well i disagree… gnome-bluetooth isn't a requirement for using gvfs outside gnome -.-
EDIT2: And what a surprise - it compiled just fine! (against bluez4 ofc) :<

Last edited by swiftgeek (2013-10-07 19:52:25)

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#4 2013-10-08 03:46:01

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Perform a full system upgrade now. The package mate-bluetooth has been updated to no longer depend on gvfs-obexftp. If upgrade is successful, mark this tread as solved.


Keep It Simple, Stupid

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#5 2013-10-10 22:08:39

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Are you sure that this is fixed? I tried to update from http://repo.mate-desktop.org/archlinux/ but I still get the error. Also https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/mate-bluetooth/ in AUR still depends on gvfs-obexftp.

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#6 2013-10-10 22:14:06

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

@jsnlry if You don't resolve this in 3 days, poke me to create AUR package for gvfs-obexftp¹ wink
¹what will actually recompile whole gvfs and package only obexftp part :<

Last edited by swiftgeek (2013-10-10 22:15:54)

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#7 2013-10-13 12:47:42

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Ok. I currently don't need bluetooth, so I just ignored the mate-bluetooth package, so that I am able to update my system.

I also saw, that gvfs-obexftp has been replaced with gvfs.

@dabholkarsa what did you mean with
> The package mate-bluetooth has been updated to no longer depend on gvfs-obexftp.
??? Which mate-bluetooth package in which repo?

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#8 2013-10-13 12:49:32

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

It isn't replaced, this is just faulty/misguiding entry in gvfs's PKGBUILD

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#9 2013-10-13 13:43:57

karol
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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

jsnlry wrote:

@dabholkarsa what did you mean with
> The package mate-bluetooth has been updated to no longer depend on gvfs-obexftp.
??? Which mate-bluetooth package in which repo?

$ pacman -Si mate-bluetooth
Repository     : mate
Name           : mate-bluetooth
Version        : 1.6.0-3
Description    : A collection of Bluetooth utilities and modules for MATE
Architecture   : i686
URL            : http://mate-desktop.org
Licenses       : GPL
Groups         : mate-extras
Provides       : None
Depends On     : dbus  desktop-file-utils  gobject-introspection  gtk2  gvfs  libnotify  libunique  obexd-client  obex-data-server
Optional Deps  : mate-user-share: Enable sharing via bluetooth and other protocols.
Conflicts With : None
Replaces       : None
Download Size  : 664.61 KiB
Installed Size : 3170.00 KiB
Packager       : Martin Wimpress <code@flexion.org>
Build Date     : Mon 07 Oct 2013 11:19:25 PM CEST
Validated By   : MD5 Sum  SHA256 Sum

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#10 2013-10-17 08:34:51

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

The problem is with mate-bluetooth which depends on bluez4 not bluez and with mate-user-share which depends on gvfs-obexftp.

Removing those two mate packages makes system able to update but there is no way to install those two packages again.
I hope someone can check and fix this.

I'd be really grateful.

-----
After some googling I found fedora wiki with such quote:

MATE team:

mate-bluetooth has not received much upstream attention recently and is likely to not get ported to BlueZ 5 in time for F20. However, the Fedora MATE maintainers are looking into switching back to using gnome-bluetooth, and creating a panel applet for MATE that uses gnome-bluetooth underneath. An initial prototype is available at https://github.com/NiceandGently/bluetooth-panel-applet

Last edited by levy_pl (2013-10-18 08:26:12)

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#11 2013-10-21 01:42:12

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Sigh…
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gvfs-obexftp-bluez4/
As said before and in its comment - it recompiles whole gvfs and packages&&installs only tiny gvfs-obexftp module.
Feel free to hate && vote

Last edited by swiftgeek (2013-10-21 01:45:31)

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#12 2013-10-21 15:45:30

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Thanks a lot swiftgeek!
As I can see elsewhere problem with bluez5 is much bigger and affects more than just mate.
Why it was pulled into core repo although it makes bluetooth file sending impossible?

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#13 2013-10-21 15:57:04

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Bluez5 isn't the problem but (near-)end implementations in DEs (eg. Blueman is dead and i don't see anywhere any real alternative to it). So if somebody is using something beyond current Gnome or KDE … well we are stuck with orphaned, unsupported software quality of few months old pizza wink

It would be nice to revive blueman project though … eg. on github (IMO the best place for uncoordinated development)

Last edited by swiftgeek (2013-10-21 16:05:51)

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#14 2013-10-21 16:16:52

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

swiftgeek wrote:

we are stuck with orphaned, unsupported software quality of few months old pizza wink

They make great frisbees, assuming they're not partially eaten.

I don't think discussing it on Arch forums will change anything, you have to go somewhere upstream or fix stuff yourself, as swiftgeek suggested.

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#15 2013-10-21 16:22:07

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Again, there is no upstream to those projects anymore :]

I'm proposing blueman for revival on github because IMHO it was the best DE-neutral end-user software wink

Nobody alone has time for such revival (python2→3, gtk2 →3 or completely toolkit-neutral, bluez4→5, and few new extensions - namely those for weird pairing styles eg. wiimote, support for new NetworkManager) but with enough spare timers it should be possible
It would be a huge loss to desktop linux to just leave it to rot…

(After revival of blueman, gvfs-obexftp port to bluez5  is obviously trivial, if not done sooner by gnome itself)

Last edited by swiftgeek (2013-10-21 16:39:13)

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#16 2013-10-21 16:25:40

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

swiftgeek wrote:

Again, there is no upstream to those projects anymore :]

I meant the teams who work on DEs, but if they're not interested in supporting anything else than the latest bluez, you're on your own.

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#17 2013-10-21 16:26:39

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

But we aren't using those DEs - this is from where problems comes from big_smile
Don't think about mate-only… more like flux/openbox wink *

*Yet another rephrase - there are Gnome3, KDE5 and "Others"

Last edited by swiftgeek (2013-10-21 16:37:54)

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#18 2013-10-21 16:31:52

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Re: Problem with gvfs-obexftp

Ah, so it's not up to mate folks?
Edit:

swiftgeek wrote:

Don't think about mate-only… more like flux/openbox wink

Ah, OK.

Last edited by karol (2013-10-21 16:33:58)

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