Wine + Morrowind (And others) + Gnome + fglrx = glitches

fazo96 · 2013-10-15 17:01:40

Hello, I'm running Arch x86_64 fully updated except catalyst-hook which is 13.11
I use playonlinux. I installed Morrowind with all the expansions and it works great (!) except for one small issue. If I run the game fullscreen I get like 300 fps, but running it windowed slows it down a lot. The framerate stays on 30 fps when there is low geometry on the screen (like looking on the sky) and 18-20 in all the other cases. Turning down render distance and other graphics gets it slightly higher (22-23 fps, 31 fps). I think it's gnome's fault.
Also I can't play fine on fullscreen because I can still see the gnome bar at the top and this pushes the game window down so I can't see the bottom!
Finally, I also tried Two Worlds II and Guild Wars 2. The first one runs very well but after a few seconds it glitches and my fglrx crashes and I can't even get to virtual consoles. Same if I run it in his own X server.
Guild Wars 2 also glitches after a while, but only using CSMT patched wine. If I use 1.7.4 it runs fine on stability but I get 5-10 fps. Both can't even start if I use windowed because the screen goes all glitchy and then the video driver crashes, and I can't even get to virtual console.
EDIT: Tried morrowind in his own display. Instantly crashes when I click play in his launcher (Maybe I need a window manager?)
EDIT: Morrowind fullscreen on gnome is not an option: it glitches everything and I can't play decently
Is there a solution for Morrowind except running it in his own X server? I'm mostly interessed in getting it to work in windowed mode, or at least removing the gnome bar in fullscreen.

Thank you all in advance.

Last edited by fazo96 (2013-10-15 17:09:38)

Thaodan · 2013-10-15 18:21:27

do you tried using a virtual desktop eg with:?

explorer /desktop=<NAME>,800x600

BTW: Better write a shell script to start your app either write your own or look at https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew and edit this example:
https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew/blob/ … example.sh

Last edited by Thaodan (2013-10-15 18:32:56)

fazo96 · 2013-10-15 18:37:24

Thaodan wrote:

do you tried using a virtual desktop eg with:?
explorer /desktop=<NAME>,800x600
BTW: Better write a shell script to start your app either write your own or look at https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew and edit this example:
https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew/blob/ … example.sh

Great suggestion! I didn't think about it!
Running morrowind fullscreen inside a virtual desktop fixes everything! I have no glitches with the UI and the game runs very smooth convienently placed in a window!
I tried Two Worlds II too but it occupies the entire screen (1920x1080) even if I start it from steam in a virtual desktop (why is this possible?)
Guild Wars 2 had a big patch so I can't try it yet

Thaodan · 2013-10-15 21:40:53

fazo96 wrote:

Thaodan wrote:
do you tried using a virtual desktop eg with:?
explorer /desktop=<NAME>,800x600
BTW: Better write a shell script to start your app either write your own or look at https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew and edit this example:
https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew/blob/ … example.sh
Great suggestion! I didn't think about it!
Running morrowind fullscreen inside a virtual desktop fixes everything! I have no glitches with the UI and the game runs very smooth convienently placed in a window!

Use a virtual desktop, everry you start a application that has fullscreen if you don't know how it beahaves

I tried Two Worlds II too but it occupies the entire screen (1920x1080) even if I start it from steam in a virtual desktop (why is this possible?)
Guild Wars 2 had a big patch so I can't try it yet

Some appss Ignore or bug the wine virtual desktop.
Abou the GW2 thing: dou you mean the chromium https patch? If yes look at my modifed wine PKGBUILD (wine-multimedia with some extra packages):
https://github.com/Thaodan/thaopkgs/tre … multimedia

I have a tool to do such stuff if you start apps manually (not by a script for an installed programm ) see here

fazo96 · 2013-10-16 08:18:08

Thaodan wrote:

fazo96 wrote:
Thaodan wrote:
do you tried using a virtual desktop eg with:?
explorer /desktop=<NAME>,800x600
BTW: Better write a shell script to start your app either write your own or look at https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew and edit this example:
https://github.com/Thaodan/usenew/blob/ … example.sh
Great suggestion! I didn't think about it!
Running morrowind fullscreen inside a virtual desktop fixes everything! I have no glitches with the UI and the game runs very smooth convienently placed in a window!
Use a virtual desktop, everry you start a application that has fullscreen if you don't know how it beahaves
I tried Two Worlds II too but it occupies the entire screen (1920x1080) even if I start it from steam in a virtual desktop (why is this possible?)
Guild Wars 2 had a big patch so I can't try it yet
Some appss Ignore or bug the wine virtual desktop.
Abou the GW2 thing: dou you mean the chromium https patch? If yes look at my modifed wine PKGBUILD (wine-multimedia with some extra packages):
https://github.com/Thaodan/thaopkgs/tre … multimedia
I have a tool to do such stuff if you start apps manually (not by a script for an installed programm ) see here

I will look into your tool.
For Gw2, I meant the official patch (it's an MMO so many patches come out) and I have slow internet, so I will test it later
By the way there's another issue with morrowind. If I play more than 5-10 minutes, the keyboard goes glitchy and when I press something it either stays pressed or doesn't work at all and it becomes impossible to play. I can't find anyone with the same problems, and I played 20 mins straight the first time I run it in fullscreen and nothing wrong happened so I guess it's after today's update. I updated catalyst, gnome and the kernel to latest version. I'll try playing with settings and see if I can fix this last problem then I can play!!
EDIT: Just fixed it, I remembered reading somewhere that you had to put Windows version in wine to "Windows 98", I did it, and now the keyboard works as it should.

Last edited by fazo96 (2013-10-16 08:28:33)

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#1 2013-10-15 17:01:40

Wine + Morrowind (And others) + Gnome + fglrx = glitches

#2 2013-10-15 18:21:27

Re: Wine + Morrowind (And others) + Gnome + fglrx = glitches

#3 2013-10-15 18:37:24

Re: Wine + Morrowind (And others) + Gnome + fglrx = glitches

#4 2013-10-15 21:40:53

Re: Wine + Morrowind (And others) + Gnome + fglrx = glitches

#5 2013-10-16 08:18:08

Re: Wine + Morrowind (And others) + Gnome + fglrx = glitches

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