Gnome 3.10 cable connection indicator

and-bnk · 2013-10-07 19:54:08

Hi!
Today I've upgraded gnome to the version 3.10.
It seems nice... except for the following: there is no cable connections indicator in the new system menu, no icons.
This means that I cannot handle cable connections without accessing the network settings from the system settings.
The worst thing is that there is no way to understand if the cable is plugged in or if the connection is down without such indicator.

In the system menu, only the wifi indicator (and the airplane mode indicator) is available.

What can I do to have such indicator in the system menu?
Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

All the best,
and

kirpichpda · 2013-10-08 17:29:27

A similar problem. How to fix?

iskandr · 2013-10-08 19:03:43

I have the same problem. Do you have more than one wired connection? Those new menus in gnome have the habit of only being shown if they seem relevant for the user (e.g. accessibility icon), so maybe the connections icon is only visible if you have more than one network connection?

kirpichpda · 2013-10-09 05:30:53

Connecting one. If I add VPN connection " appears only vpn connection

forumache · 2013-10-09 07:44:14

iskandr wrote:

I have the same problem. Do you have more than one wired connection? Those new menus in gnome have the habit of only being shown if they seem relevant for the user (e.g. accessibility icon), so maybe the connections icon is only visible if you have more than one network connection?

No, even with two adapters (usb ethernet adapter - phone and wired ethernet) it does not appear.
This is by design
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708966

blackout23 · 2013-10-09 16:14:10

Really stupid design. Now it takes at least 5 clicks to select a wireless network and getting to your wired connection option takes even longer. The network indicator was the best thing about Gnome 3....

Now we probably have to install yet another extension to get something back.

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Michael Catanzaro · 2013-10-10 13:19:23

The nonpresence of an icon is supposed to mean that you're connected; there's no point in showing the icon since wired connections don't normally go down. In 3.10.1 (release scheduled for next week) you will get a disconnected icon if you're disconnected, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709638

If you need to shuffle between multiple wired connections, that is indeed removed from the shell since it's not a use case relevant to desktop users. (You can still handle this from System Settings.)

Anthony25 · 2013-10-11 18:40:03

Michael Catanzaro wrote:

The nonpresence of an icon is supposed to mean that you're connected; there's no point in showing the icon since wired connections don't normally go down. In 3.10.1 (release scheduled for next week) you will get a disconnected icon if you're disconnected, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709638
If you need to shuffle between multiple wired connections, that is indeed removed from the shell since it's not a use case relevant to desktop users. (You can still handle this from System Settings.)

Why do you think it's not relevant for desktop users ?
I mean on my laptop I liked to switch easily between a few connections (like a share connection, in my apartment, etc...), now I have to go to the control center and in the network options.

Like the hibernation, we can't hibernate anymore in a user friendly way ! To hibernate I have to do "sudo systemctl hibernate" ...

Michael Catanzaro · 2013-10-11 21:30:39

Anthony25 wrote:

Why do you think it's not relevant for desktop users ?
I mean on my laptop I liked to switch easily between a few connections (like a share connection, in my apartment, etc...), now I have to go to the control center and in the network options.

I'm confused - you have multiple Ethernet cords plugged into your laptop at the same time?

Like the hibernation, we can't hibernate anymore in a user friendly way ! To hibernate I have to do "sudo systemctl hibernate" ...

That's what I do too. alternate-status-menu, an upstream-supported extension, provided Hibernate through 3.8, but it was removed in 3.10....

Anthony25 · 2013-10-11 21:32:22

Nope, but multiple profiles.

blackout23 · 2013-10-11 23:03:06

Anthony25 wrote:

Nope, but multiple profiles.

Me, too. I have a profile for simple DHCP and one for an encrypted wired connection that needs authentication. I do shuffle between them often enough that I'd like to have direct access to them in the panel.

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Michael Catanzaro · 2013-10-11 23:10:15

Ah, OK. So in GNOME 3.8, you could switch between multiple wired network profiles using the network menu? That may be an oversight in the new design. You could try filing a bug against gnome-shell if you want; if you do, make your use case clear, don't just say "I want the indicator back" as that won't go anywhere. The expected behavior would be that you can switch between multiple wired profiles if multiple profiles exist (so the typical user, with only one profile, would not be exposed to any new functionality).

blackout23 · 2013-10-11 23:27:20

Wow. I just unplugged my ethernet cable to see if there is any indication about my connection status. Nothing. Are you kidding me? At least the old indicator had some animation when I plugged the cable back in and it acquired an IP address. Nothing.

Maybe Gnome developers should get stupid tablets out of their heads just for a second. Noone is using Gnome on a tablet. Not everyone uses shitty wifi.

I'll file a bug if someone hasn't already, but I need a cup of tea first and a few pills. Still can't comprehend how someone could design something so obviously flawed.

Last edited by blackout23 (2013-10-11 23:37:07)

Anthony25 · 2013-10-11 23:39:09

@blackout23 :

Michael Catanzaro wrote:

The nonpresence of an icon is supposed to mean that you're connected; there's no point in showing the icon since wired connections don't normally go down. In 3.10.1 (release scheduled for next week) you will get a disconnected icon if you're disconnected, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709638

But yes, it wasn't (apparently) in their initial design, because "you just have to go on google to see that you're disconnected, no need an icon !"...

fantab · 2013-10-13 04:34:26

blackout23 wrote:

Anthony25 wrote:
Nope, but multiple profiles.
Me, too. I have a profile for simple DHCP and one for an encrypted wired connection that needs authentication. I do shuffle between them often enough that I'd like to have direct access to them in the panel.

I too have similar issue with the new 'Integrated System Status'. I cannot control my Ethernet connections as easily. Inititally I thought it was some thing to do with Network Manager. See this, but after some reading around, it turns out to be a lousy design.

I have an Ethernet and USB Modem and I shift between them when I need speed, my USB modem is faster. Now I have to go through several steps to disconnect my Ethernet.

Do I see another Shell Extension on the horizon?

Michael Catanzaro · 2013-10-13 14:56:18

There's a bug already: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708966

leostereo · 2014-01-28 13:24:53

Totally agree .... I also miss the wired connection indicator , for mi was very usefull the way a I handled the connection profiles before upgrade, now , here is my work around:

Channnnn channnn

To create a custom shortcut ..... lets say alt+n , with the command "gnome-control-center network" .... I know it is not guauuu but at least it is shorter, bye.

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