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#1 2013-08-30 13:40:46

manouchk
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about 10 seconds to start nemo

Hi,

I use cinamon because it's fast, simple and does what I need. The biggest glitches that remains here is that nemo's start up time is about 10 second. I have a system here with a SSD drive. Boot up time is almost faster than nemo start-up time.

I don't know what's the problem. What could I do to identify the problem, solve it? Any suggestion, any known problem that I did not found on internet?

edit: I tested nemo start-up time with a new user. Start-up time is good, much less than one second!

Last edited by manouchk (2013-08-30 13:46:37)

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#2 2013-08-30 14:43:52

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Did you try launching nemo from a terminal, and if so what error messages do you get, if any?


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#3 2013-08-30 15:12:29

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

I already tried that and didn't get any messages.

Nemo only starts slowly the first time after boot.The secong time it is much faster (there is maybe an hiddem instance of nemo?).

I have defined a link to a samba drive.

By running "strace nemo" I got this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6gpgdqnev6yxs … strace.txt

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#4 2013-09-14 00:06:16

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Does anyone can tel how I could initialize the configuration of nemo? I think this related. I trie nemo on a new user and it is fast.

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#5 2013-09-14 10:24:35

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Delete the configuration file/directory, and that should be as good as new.

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#6 2013-11-15 14:42:52

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

THe problem is still there. I don't know exactly which config file I should delete. Is there any other standart good file manager for cinnamon? This is just annoying that nemo lasts more than ten times to launch than chromium or firefox here!!

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#7 2013-11-15 15:09:58

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

manouchk wrote:

THe problem is still there. I don't know exactly which config file I should delete. Is there any other standart good file manager for cinnamon? This is just annoying that nemo lasts more than ten times to launch than chromium or firefox here!!

Nemo is the only officially supported File Manager for Cinnamon. Nautilus works for now, as does Thunar and the like.


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#8 2013-11-15 15:10:38

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

The strange thing to me is that nemo should already be running: the entire desktop is a nemo "window".

When I hear "programs take forever to start" the first thing that always comes to my mind is hostname configuration! (seriously!) Please double check your hostname configuration, especially the "/etc/hosts" file. (you can post the contents of the hosts file here if you'd like)

EDIT: I was confusing the nemo with caja, the file manager for MATE. Oops. Does Cinnamon even have a "desktop"? tongue

Last edited by drcouzelis (2014-02-05 15:58:53)

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#9 2014-02-14 00:56:16

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Problem stopped a few week/month but is back...

more /etc/hosts
#
# /etc/hosts: static lookup table for host names
#

#<ip-address>	<hostname.domain.org>	<hostname>
127.0.0.1	localhost.localdomain	localhost
::1		localhost.localdomain	localhost

# End of file

By the way from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ne … e_hostname I read:
"You no longer need to edit /etc/hosts, systemd will provide host name resolution, and is installed on all systems by default."

Is something worng in my hostname?

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#10 2014-02-14 14:37:21

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Try adding the hostname of your computer to the "127.0.0.1" line, like this:

more /etc/hosts
#
# /etc/hosts: static lookup table for host names
#

#<ip-address>	<hostname.domain.org>	<hostname>
127.0.0.1	localhost.localdomain	localhost	mysuperduperhostname
::1		localhost.localdomain	localhost

# End of file

Does nemo now work correctly?

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#11 2014-02-14 16:46:36

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Thank you for your suggestion
Unfornately, it did not imporve things. It took about 9 seconds to launch Nemo, much longuer than firefox or chromium (about 1 second). (I run archlinux on a SSD hard drive).

Last edited by manouchk (2014-02-14 16:47:13)

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#12 2014-02-14 17:22:32

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Hmmm... It reminds me of problems I used to read about that are related to gvfs, like this one: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=894538

Other than that I'm out of ideas. Good luck! smile

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#13 2014-03-17 20:10:47

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

sorry to bring up the old thread, but is there any progress so far ?
i can confirm that nemo needs 10 sec. to start after boot and i am also have arch on an ssd installed.

the old thread that drcouzelis posted stated that this behaviour had something to do with gvfs scanning the network environment.
problem is i need gvfs and cant just simply disable it .... any ideas someone ?
thanks!

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#14 2014-03-17 20:17:52

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Yes, do what I recommend here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 3#p1381393 big_smile

EDIT: (Awww, it didn't help. sad)

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#15 2014-03-17 20:22:00

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

smile well i did that and it didn't help

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#16 2014-03-18 04:15:49

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

try this

cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
sudo pacman -U cinnamon-2.0.14-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz libevdev-0.6-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz muffin-2.0.5-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz clutter-1.16.4-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz

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#17 2014-03-20 10:08:50

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

downgrading hasn't improved the situation ... still i have to wait 10 seconds - or start nemo manually - to see my desktop

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#18 2014-04-05 00:58:10

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

I'm having the same issue. Adding nemo to my startup programs makes no difference, and it's really annoying. I've been trying to come up with a little startup script to launch it, but that doesn't seem to be working either.

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#19 2014-04-05 14:05:07

iroha
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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

bug is already confirmed HERE

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#20 2014-04-08 02:58:20

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

how many signatures does it take for a maintainer to start working on the issue, as I can see it has 21 votes already, the issue is still there and no word from the maintainer.

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#21 2014-04-08 03:08:10

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

rusty725 wrote:

how many signatures does it take for a maintainer to start working on the issue, as I can see it has 21 votes already, the issue is still there and no word from the maintainer.

The number of votes on a package doesn't dictate anything.

If you already know how to fix it, then simply make the changes yourself in the PKGBUILD while installing using ABS or AUR. You don't have to wait for the maintainer to fix anything if you are willing to do it yourself.


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#22 2014-04-08 08:45:39

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

Inxsible wrote:
rusty725 wrote:

how many signatures does it take for a maintainer to start working on the issue, as I can see it has 21 votes already, the issue is still there and no word from the maintainer.

The number of votes on a package doesn't dictate anything.

If you already know how to fix it, then simply make the changes yourself in the PKGBUILD while installing using ABS or AUR. You don't have to wait for the maintainer to fix anything if you are willing to do it yourself.

unfortunately my fix didn't fix it smile there's more than 30sec delay, the system's response is slow as well.

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#23 2014-04-08 09:55:46

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

I'm not having any problems here with Nemo and Cinnamon here (or any applications here). No fixes applied or anything, just the straight packages. If it's worth anything, I installed MATE first and then installed Cinnamon, so I use the MATE programs for the backends instead of the GNOME3 packages.


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#24 2014-04-09 04:08:18

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

clfarron4 wrote:

I'm not having any problems here with Nemo and Cinnamon here (or any applications here). No fixes applied or anything, just the straight packages. If it's worth anything, I installed MATE first and then installed Cinnamon, so I use the MATE programs for the backends instead of the GNOME3 packages.

can you tell us your specs please

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#25 2014-04-09 09:58:28

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Re: about 10 seconds to start nemo

rusty725 wrote:
clfarron4 wrote:

I'm not having any problems here with Nemo and Cinnamon here (or any applications here). No fixes applied or anything, just the straight packages. If it's worth anything, I installed MATE first and then installed Cinnamon, so I use the MATE programs for the backends instead of the GNOME3 packages.

can you tell us your specs please

My Laptop Specs are: AMD 3305M APU with AMD Radeon (Integrated) 6480G with 4GB RAM. I use AMD Catalyst, and it works pretty damn well.


Claire is fine.
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