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#1 2006-02-04 22:33:28

deft
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Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

Is anyone running testing? - after a udev & kernel update (today) it's stalling at UDEV on boot-up - just hangs, and stays in that state - anyone else noticed this?

Ta.

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#2 2006-02-05 04:46:06

MartinZ
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

Same here. Had to downgrade to udev 084-1 and everything is fine again


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#3 2006-02-05 09:06:33

eg4matze
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Registered: 2005-01-27
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

same problem,

any ideas to start arch, that I can downgrade the package?

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#4 2006-02-05 09:15:58

tpowa
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From: Lauingen , Germany
Registered: 2004-04-05
Posts: 2,260

Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

huh, ok, seems my udev stuff has problems hmm
are you all running laptops?
thanks
greetings
tpowa

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#5 2006-02-05 09:33:53

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

ok seems i found the problem
new udev will go up now, please report if it solves your trouble.

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#6 2006-02-05 09:33:56

eg4matze
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

no I dont use the testing packages on the laptop, only on the desktop pc

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#7 2006-02-05 09:34:23

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

eg4matze could you come to irc?

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#8 2006-02-05 09:35:41

tealeg
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

Hey tpowa, I'm experiencing this problem too.

I'm running an IBM Thinkpad R40 with the following (rough) spec:

(Centrino)
Intel Pentium M 1.3Ghz
Intel ipw2100 wireless
intel EtherExpressPro 100
ATI Radeon Mobility

It's notable that if you ctrl-C whilst udev is starting the machine will boot with the root partition mounted read only.


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#9 2006-02-05 09:37:57

tpowa
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From: Lauingen , Germany
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

booting with load_modules=off should give you your system in a working state

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#10 2006-02-05 09:38:49

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

please join me on irc, then you can test my fix

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#11 2006-02-05 17:21:33

Gullible Jones
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

No hanging here, but it takes half again as long to start as it used to.

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#12 2006-02-05 21:16:56

deft
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

tpowa wrote:

huh, ok, seems my udev stuff has problems hmm
are you all running laptops?
thanks
greetings
tpowa

Thanks tpowa smile - it's working fine now after finally getting back in and downloading udev-084-3 - (fwiw, mines a P4 desktop).

Cheers smile

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#13 2006-02-05 21:20:26

deft
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

Gullible Jones wrote:

No hanging here, but it takes half again as long to start as it used to.

Mines lengthened a bit aswell - (roughly 4-5 seconds on udev at the moment) - not sure what anyone else is finding at the mo.

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#14 2006-02-05 23:36:28

Gullible Jones
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

6 or 7 seconds here. I pointed out a little while ago that this was strange since it takes only about one second for udevd, it seems the devs are still working on that... For now, anyway, it's slightly annoying, but it's a delay I can live with.

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#15 2006-02-06 00:05:03

napoleon
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

I just upgraded to udev 084-3 and now i get

 Failed to find real device node for /dev/hdd: No such file or directory

when i try to play cd or dvd. I had no problems with udev 084-2 can someone please upload it for me to download so i can downgrade.


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#16 2006-02-06 00:26:41

lumiwa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

napoleon wrote:

I just upgraded to udev 084-3 and now i get

 Failed to find real device node for /dev/hdd: No such file or directory

when i try to play cd or dvd. I had no problems with udev 084-2 can someone please upload it for me to download so i can downgrade.

I am sorry, I don't have -2 version but I had a problem with netwok again. After upgrade and reboot it didn't find my network. After reboot was okay but is a little slower than version 0.84-2.

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#17 2006-02-06 06:59:42

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

Hi i can't work on that udev needs that time to parse all the stuff, you cannot optimise that, udev does now handle all the module loading, keep that in mind, my system starts fasten then before so who cares if 5 seconds udevs needs when you get in the end a boot that is 3 seconds faster?
greetings
tpowa

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#18 2006-02-06 07:00:50

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

@ napoleon are you using latest kernel too?

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#19 2006-02-06 15:34:54

napoleon
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

I am using kernel26archck 2.6.15. Thnx.


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#20 2006-02-06 17:46:49

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

archck has not the uevent patches from testing kernel i guess that new udev needs.

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#21 2006-02-07 05:58:21

iphitus
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

aye, as mentioned in another thread,

ArchCK is compiled for current, not testing. I will take a look and see what I can do. If the patches dont break current, which they probably wont, I will most likely include them next release which ought to be in the next few days.

iphitus

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#22 2006-02-07 14:25:58

lumiwa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

tpowa wrote:

Hi i can't work on that udev needs that time to parse all the stuff, you cannot optimise that, udev does now handle all the module loading, keep that in mind, my system starts fasten then before so who cares if 5 seconds udevs needs when you get in the end a boot that is 3 seconds faster?
greetings
tpowa

I don't care if udev looks 5 or 10 seconds but I don't like that I need to reboot few times that network start working.

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#23 2006-02-11 07:19:34

tpowa
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Re: Boot-up stall at UDEV (testing)

iphitus stuff moved to current, feel free to update the ck kernel with uevent patches to get a correct cdsymlinking

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