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#1 2014-06-19 06:30:53

mijenix
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Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Hi

Every kernel after 3.14.5-1-ARCH (even the newest 3.15.x release) causes boot problems on my Intel NUC 2820
It is not able to boot into the system, not even to the stage where systemd is taking over.
Sometimes the kernel hangs at the AUX port, sometimes at the "usbcore" initialization, you cannot toggle a certain pattern.

I use the newest BIOS (at the moment v. 0034).

Can someone confirm the same behavior?
Any ideas, thoughts?

Thank you!

Cheers,
mijenix

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#2 2014-06-19 12:07:54

sfabius
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I'm having a problem booting 3.15 too, although I get to systemd and a prompt. I just downgraded to 3.14 by chrooting with the install usb by following this archwiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Panics.

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#3 2014-06-19 14:19:59

mijenix
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

sfabius wrote:

I'm having a problem booting 3.15 too, although I get to systemd and a prompt. I just downgraded to 3.14 by chrooting with the install usb by following this archwiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Panics.

do you also use UEFI only boot on x86_64?

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#4 2014-06-19 14:54:57

Krypt0n
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I can't boot correctly on my L540 too.
The strange thing is that after I got it through systemd (by disabling mount of a vfat partition) the output of uname -r was 3.14. Oh and there were no detected devices (soundcard, network interfaces, video card).

Reverting to 3.14 by booting from a life-disk solved the problem.

Does anyone know what the problem is? I'm kinda inexperienced with kernel upgrade problems.

/e I'm using gummiboot with EFI on x86_64

Last edited by Krypt0n (2014-06-19 14:57:20)

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#5 2014-06-19 16:43:09

sfabius
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

@mijenix: Yes, UEFI boot only on x86_64.

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#6 2014-06-20 09:37:23

mijenix
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

sfabius wrote:

Yes, UEFI boot only on x86_64.

I was able to boot till I get a prompt too (at least with some newer >= 3.14.6) but after a few minutes the computer freezed and I had to restart it sad
@sfabius: Did you test your box with a newer kernel version a little longer or did you switch immediately back to an older kernel?

Last edited by mijenix (2014-06-20 09:38:03)

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#7 2014-06-21 11:16:29

sfabius
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I only got to the fallback prompt, pressing ctl-D and then dropping into a root shell. But nothing was mounted and I could mount nothing manually. So at that point I was stuck and went back to previous kernel.

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#8 2014-06-21 13:15:50

johnLate
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Quickest way to downgrade the kernel if you have no live system at hand:

Boot the bad kernel with maxcpus=1, then downgrade the kernel: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Panics#Roll_back_to_previous_kernel_version

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#9 2014-06-21 13:42:33

sirocco
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

And for the future - install linux-lts.

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#10 2014-06-23 16:14:08

sirocco
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Solution for me in similar case - removing i915 from MODULES line in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf

(my configuration - lenovo ideapad u330p (Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4010U CPU, HD 4400 ), gummiboot, x86_64)

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#11 2014-06-23 19:06:21

mijenix
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

sirocco wrote:

Solution for me in similar case - removing i915 from MODULES line in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf

(my configuration - lenovo ideapad u330p (Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4010U CPU, HD 4400 ), gummiboot, x86_64)

Does not work for me, still the same problem.

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#12 2014-06-23 19:06:55

mijenix
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Should we file a bug report? Or should we do that upstream?
Does someone has any news?

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#13 2014-06-23 21:05:24

gfrito
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I have the same problem. Intel claims that the only officially supported OSes are Windows 8.1 and 7, so I don't know how far we'll get upstream.

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#14 2014-06-23 21:17:12

mijenix
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

gfrito wrote:

I have the same problem. Intel claims that the only officially supported OSes are Windows 8.1 and 7, so I don't know how far we'll get upstream.

Yes, I created a thread in the Intel Forum as well!

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#15 2014-06-23 21:30:47

gfrito
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I can confirm that I can boot with either "maxcpus=1" or "nosmp", but without it the boot fails completely, with no error reported even with all kernel logging enabled. Why would SMP cause a boot failure without an error message?

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#16 2014-06-23 22:09:53

gfrito
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Okay, if you disable ASPM and the other intel smart power management thing in the BIOS, it boots fine without any kernel parameters needed.

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#17 2014-06-24 17:44:49

mijenix
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

gfrito wrote:

Okay, if you disable ASPM and the other intel smart power management thing in the BIOS, it boots fine without any kernel parameters needed.

Yes, I can confirm that helped for me as well, I hope the kernel devs or the intel devs can solve the problem smile

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#18 2014-07-11 09:51:06

DepletionMode
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I have the same issue.
Problem with disabling that stuff is that CPU freq is fixed at 1.6Ghz sad

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#19 2014-07-11 12:46:04

vargagab
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Hi!

I think thist is the same problem as mine.

vargagab

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#20 2014-07-17 13:15:50

jiak
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Where should we report this bug?

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#21 2014-07-25 12:32:34

Wookiegeek
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

sirocco wrote:

Solution for me in similar case - removing i915 from MODULES line in /etc/mkinitcpio.conf

(my configuration - lenovo ideapad u330p (Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4010U CPU, HD 4400 ), gummiboot, x86_64)

Yes I've got a problem with i915 and this kernel. I need the module as I'm running an Intel GM965/GL960 graphics chip, although it usually works without including it in etc/mkincpio.conf. With the 3.15 kernel my computer crashes to coloured vertical stripes at tty login screen. Disabling modesetting allows tty login but that's not useful as it stops X working.

(my config - Toshiba Satellite Pro - Intel Core2Duo T5450)

mijenix wrote:

Yes, I created a thread in the Intel Forum as well!

I think the problem is with kernel rather than Intel driver as latest driver (xf86-video-intel-2.99.912-2-x86_64) works fine with lts and 3.14-5 kernels. For now my solution is kernel downgrade.

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#22 2014-07-25 15:11:51

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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Curiouser and curiouser - i915, linux-3.15.3-1, xf86-video-intel and xorg-server all work fine from the live CD. But not when installed to HD. Anybody got any ideas?

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#23 2014-07-25 21:55:03

ikandros
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

I also have an Intel NUC 2820 which would not boot properly until I turned off the Intel Speedstep option in the BIOS.

However, if I disable the intel pstate cpu driver (with intel_pstate=disable on the kernel commandline) then I can boot with the Intel Speedstep options turned on in the BIOS. I guess this means there is a bug or a missing quirk in the intel_pstate driver for this chip.

I think the people with issues with the i915 driver are running into an unrelated bug.

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#24 2014-07-28 12:07:16

Wookiegeek
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Thanks ikandros, moved the i915 stuff to a different thread

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#25 2014-08-13 17:43:01

ikandros
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Re: Unable to boot with Intel NUC 2820 linux kernel > 3.14.5-1-ARCH

Has anyone been brave enough to try the intel_pstate driver with kernel 3.16-2? I don't have a usb keyboard handy to recover if it won't boot.

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