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#251 2014-07-16 12:07:16

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

orschiro wrote:

Can this font be added to the selection based on its free license?

As far as I can tell, the License seems to be explicitly stating "No":

3.3 You shall not rent, lease, distribute, or sublicense the Licensed Fonts, or create derivative works based upon the Licensed Fonts.

Isn't it possible to just change the default printout quality to draft?… wink


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#252 2014-07-19 21:37:47

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

Do these fonts work well with default fontconfig?

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#253 2014-07-23 08:41:48

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

@bohoomil

I wrote the creator's an email and will report back if they agree on sharing the font!

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#254 2014-07-23 18:46:04

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

Talking about nice fonts, if anyone is looking for another narrow monospaced font, 'M+ 1m' from the mplus fonts collection is quite nice. Someone wrote a blog post about here a while back.

t6MUgq4.png

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#255 2014-07-23 20:47:36

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

@jck Frankly, such fonts' target medium is not a screen, but a sheet of paper so you should expect a noticeable difference between them and typical outline typefaces.

@orschiro OK, thanks for the info.

@Ledti I added the entire M+ collection to the repo.


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#256 2014-08-13 05:28:00

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

Where do I find PT Sans in the infinality-bundle-fonts repo?  I know I can get it by hand or through ttf-googlefonts packages, but honestly I'm really happy with your repo and it would be great to know where it is.

EDIT: Clarification about I was speaking about this repo, not the official Arch Repo.

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#257 2014-08-13 11:08:04

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

If 'PT Sans' is paratype sans, you have t1-paratype-ibx and ttf-paratype-ibx.
infinality-bundle-fonts is not an official Arch Linux repo.

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#258 2014-08-13 15:43:33

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

Yep, that was exactly I was looking at. Thank you.

I know... that's why I'm posting this in this very own thread :), I made a mistake in my previous post, it was a bit late :P.

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#259 2014-08-23 23:04:24

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

According to here, here and here, Roboto also has a Thin weight.
However, the one from the repo (ttf-roboto-ibx) doesn't seem to provide it.  Is there any particular reason?
I can that the repo one is the new Roboto so it's not like it hasn't been updated recently...

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#260 2014-08-24 03:59:59

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

But if you will provide the new robot, you will provide the old one too for those who prefer the old?


Well, I suppose that this is somekind of signature, no?

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#261 2014-08-24 07:15:41

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

theuser wrote:

Is there any particular reason?

Yes, there has been: there happened to be issues with certain thinnish typefaces, Roboto among others. In such situations, if I cannot find a working solution, I do not include the troublemaker in the package. Users will be still provided with a weight below regular so the difference between font weight used in two following paragraphs (regular vs light) will be preserved, while the difference between light and thin in most use scenarios is usually not quite evident.

Every now and again I re-check the rendering of fonts I have considered critical for some reason and when the issue is gone, I usually put it back to the package. I will look into Roboto again as soon as I am done with my current `ib` job.


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#262 2014-08-24 07:43:25

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

bohoomil wrote:

I do not include the troublemaker in the package.

Maybe you could use the package changelog (-Qc) to leave a note when you don't include all available typefaces.
Edit: If you want, you could also include a link to the github changelog, e.g. "https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig- … d/$pkgname"

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#263 2014-08-24 13:11:16

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

bohoomil wrote:

Yes, there has been: there happened to be issues with certain thinnish typefaces, Roboto among others.

Yes, I know what you mean.  At small sizes the Thin is just too thin to read.  At larger ones though it's quite nice and it's distinguishable from the Light.
It's not a big problem thought, I'll just a local one.

For anyone else interested, you can get it here and the Slab here.
Don't use the whole font though, it doesn't play well with fontconfig.  It defaults to the Black, but Roboto:black actually returns the Bold! tongue Also, the Thin is not recognised.
So just take Roboto-Thin.ttf, Roboto-ThinItalic.ttf and RobotoSlab-Thin.ttf and put something like this in your fonts.conf (or conf.d/)

<!-- For whatever reason, the thin variants of the font are not identifed
     as such by fontconfig.  Explicitly mark them.  If I do this in one
     <match> it doesn't work. -->
<match target="scan">
    <test name="fullname">
        <string>Roboto Thin</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="weight" mode="prepend"> <const>thin</const> </edit>
</match>

<match target="scan">
    <test name="fullname">
        <string>Roboto Thin Italic</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="weight" mode="prepend"> <const>thin</const> </edit>
</match>

<match target="scan">
    <test name="fullname">
        <string>Roboto Slab Thin</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="weight" mode="prepend"> <const>thin</const> </edit>
</match>

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#264 2014-08-24 17:33:03

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

theuser wrote:

It defaults to the Black, but Roboto:black actually returns the Bold! tongue

Not mine: ttf-roboto-ibx fixes this issue.


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#265 2014-08-24 23:44:09

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

bohoomil wrote:

Not mine: ttf-roboto-ibx fixes this issue.

Indeed, that's why I said to only take the Thins!

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#266 2014-08-25 19:58:34

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

woo, thank you bohoomil!

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#267 2014-08-25 20:31:42

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@theuser wink


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#268 2014-10-16 12:34:50

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

Any news on the GIMP issue with white text on black background??

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#269 2014-11-20 07:37:05

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

@bohoomil

Is there something specific about ttf-dejavu-ib?

I would like to use Dejavu Sans as an XLFD font and took the following command from the Wiki page:

~ xterm -fn "-*-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-80-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1"
xterm: cannot load font '-*-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-80-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'
xterm: cannot load font '-*-dejavu sans mono-medium-r-normal--*-80-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'
~ xfontsel
Warning: Cannot convert string "xft:Dejavu Sans Mono:Regular:pixelsize=12:antialias=true:hinting=true:autohint=true" to type FontStruct

As you can see the font cannot be loaded.

Installed version:

ttf-dejavu-ib 2.34-12

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#270 2014-11-20 16:34:31

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

@orschiro No: DejaVu fonts have nothing to do with it. Simply put, outline fonts aren't supposed to be used in Xorg directly, like bitmap fonts. Most of them don't even provide proper bitmaps. You can, however, use them with xterm just like any TTF typeface:

xterm -fa "DejaVu Sans Mono:Regular" -fs 10

If you still want to enable outline fonts in Xorg in the old way, follow the instructions in the Wiki.


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#271 2014-11-23 17:35:59

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

@bohoomil

Thank you!

I followed the steps described in the Wiki and discovered font aliases.

Very handy. smile

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#272 2014-12-14 01:58:29

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

hi,

the ttf-oxygen-ibx don't include the .cmake files necesary to build some components in KF/Plasma-next

greetings

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#273 2014-12-14 04:41:40

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@sl1pkn07 Thanks for the info: the package was updated and fixed.


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#274 2015-02-03 13:35:00

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

I have a question about Droid Sans. Programs using Qt4 do not detect Droid Sans properly.

Please see this screenshot with a Qt4 program (zulucrypt-git) on the left and lxappearance on the right.

Screenshot: http://a.pomf.se/rchzjk.png

Why is Droid Sans shown as [unknown]?

ttf-droid-ib 20121017-11

Thankfully,

Robert

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#275 2015-02-03 19:12:34

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Re: infinality-bundle-fonts: a free multilingual font collection for Arch

Everything is fine. Qt uses foundry information when the same family reports more than one manufacturer, e.g.

$ fc-query DroidSans.ttf | grep foundry
        foundry: "unknown"(s)
$ fc-query DroidSansArmenian.ttf | grep foundry
        foundry: "monotype"(s)

Since Droid Sans Armenian (and others) is part of the "Droid Sans" alias:

$ less 65-ttf-droid-sans.conf

  <match target="scan">
    <test name="family">
      <string>Droid Sans</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="fontversion">
      <int>11</int>
    </edit>
  </match>

  ...

  <match target="scan">
    <test name="fullname">
      <string>Droid Sans Armenian</string>
    </test>
    <edit name="family">
      <string>Droid Sans</string>
    </edit>
    <edit name="fullname">
      <string>Droid Sans</string>
    </edit>
    <edit name="fontversion">
      <int>7</int>
    </edit>
  </match>

  ...

  <alias binding="same">
    <family>Droid Sans Armenian</family>
    <accept>
      <family>Droid Sans</family>
    </accept>
  </alias>

-- the result is two different IDs for the same family name, depending on which subfont is being referred to.


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