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#1 2014-09-15 21:38:39

volumetricsteve
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Old versions of arch?

Right to the point, I'm looking for old versions of arch linux for download.
I have a pentium 3 system I'm trying to get it to load onto, and for whatever reason, the most recent version doesn't seem to like some of my hardware and I wondered if an older version might play nicer with it?

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#2 2014-09-15 21:46:20

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Re: Old versions of arch?

For my brother I found Mandriva 10.1 big_smile
But for Arch I wonder to find all you need. Arch was/is Internet based distro, hardly we can find a site that maintains 6 or more years old.


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#3 2014-09-15 21:57:04

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Re: Old versions of arch?

Haven't seen older installers out there... the oldest kernel in Arch is as you likely know, 3.14.x series (lts) so if that is too new, you're hosed unless you wanna compile/maintain your own+modules optionally.  Maybe you're better off troubleshooting the boot error using the 2014.09.03 image?


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#4 2014-09-15 22:09:53

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Re: Old versions of arch?

Just try a live and see if it's working.


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#5 2014-09-15 23:50:07

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Re: Old versions of arch?

I'm sorry, there's no such thing as an old version of Arch Linux. Only the "now" version. smile

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#6 2014-09-16 00:00:01

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Re: Old versions of arch?

guh, poop, I thought that would be the case.

well....my situation seems localized to the sata_sil driver, which I know works in the 2.6.x kernel

can I:

fix it (scary question, how?)

or

roll back my kernel to 2.6? (also how?)

Thanks!

Edit:

I had no idea how many responses this had received!  Thanks, folks.  Other live CDs work fine (such as SliTaz, running kernel 2.6.32)  Arch much be running the newest kernel of all the distros I've got floating around...it seems like some other people using silicon image sata adapters after 2.6.32 have similar issues...

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#7 2014-09-16 00:45:11

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Re: Old versions of arch?

While 2.6 is still supported by kernel.org, there's no straightforward way to use it in Arch. The userland (namely, systemd) depends on recent kernel versions. So you can either try to use a different Init (the older kernel may still not work) or fix your driver issues. But if you've identified the driver issue, start researching. tongue

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#8 2014-09-16 00:48:52

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Re: Old versions of arch?

yeah, I'm thinking fixing it might be best..for everyone...I'm surprised this is an issue, because after doing some googling, the sata_sil driver has broken with a LOT of kernel updates.  My problem now is I've never fixed a linux driver in my life and I don't even know where to start.  Furthermore this isn't the only pci device in my system that failed to start with arch-linux, I have a usb controller that produced similar errors in my boot logs.  sad

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#9 2014-09-16 03:05:40

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Re: Old versions of arch?

volumetricsteve wrote:

My problem now is I've never fixed a linux driver in my life and I don't even know where to start.

It is not for the feint of heart.  But this is where you should begin this journey

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#10 2014-09-16 14:36:30

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Re: Old versions of arch?

This looks as valuable as it does intimidating.   I'm looking forward to the learning experience but....dayuuum.  This might turn into a github project, I predict.  If anyone out there has specific pointers or wants to help out, please feel free to reach me here or email volumetricsteve at gmail

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#11 2014-09-16 15:09:06

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Re: Old versions of arch?

You could fill a bug with the kernel developers. 
If you just want to use the machinery, and you have other Arch installations that work without the crappy sata drivers, you could just boot the old P3's over diskless nfs root.


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#12 2014-09-16 15:22:19

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Re: Old versions of arch?

Any options in the BIOS for configuring the SATA controller?


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#13 2014-09-16 16:16:35

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Re: Old versions of arch?

nomorewindows wrote:

You could fill a bug with the kernel developers. 
If you just want to use the machinery, and you have other Arch installations that work without the crappy sata drivers, you could just boot the old P3's over diskless nfs root.

I wondered about doing this, actually.  I just got back from lunch and upon stuffing my face with nachos, it occurred to me I might want to reel it in a bit and see if there's a solution other than fixing the driver manually.  Would I just go to kernel.org to report a bug or is there something arch-specific I should do?

I see what you mean about the diskless booting, but that doesn't fit with my long-term project, which requires local booting.

alphaminer wrote:

Any options in the BIOS for configuring the SATA controller?

Not many, actually.  It's an adaptec 1210sa which is essentially a long-life software raid card, or jbod card.  My application doesn't really need raid, so I'm just using it for jbod purposes.   Other linux distros have been playing with it nicely, all with older kernels..I'm fairly certain.

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