KF 5 & Plasma

davidm · 2014-10-21 22:45:01

celeron2002 wrote:

arojas wrote:
oli74 wrote:
OK, so how can I start a Plasma session. I boot directly into command prompt. The .xinitrc way is not working...
Use KDM from kde4 or any other DM (except for GDM), or launch /opt/kf5/bin/startkde from .xinitrc making sure to first export all env variables from 10-kf5

I have installed kf5 and kf5-aid but there is not a startkde command :S

[root@celerondomain elmoska]# updatedb
[root@celerondomain elmoska]# locate startkde
/usr/bin/startkde
[root@celerondomain elmoska]# pacman -Qo /usr/bin/startkde
/usr/bin/startkde es propiedad de kdebase-workspace 4.11.10-2

$ pacman -Qo /usr/bin/startkde
/usr/bin/startkde is owned by plasma-workspace 5.1.0.1-4

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kde#Plasma_5

The Plasma 5 workspace is available in the official repositories as plasma-next.

That should do it.

MarianoC · 2014-10-21 23:10:23

toneddu wrote:

try deleting ~/.cache/ksycoca5 and ~/.cache/ksycoca5stamp then relogin.
EDIT2: Sorry problem not fixed

I tried, but nothing's changed.

Do you have the same problem??

Last edited by MarianoC (2014-10-21 23:11:40)

dartfira · 2014-10-22 08:48:58

TheLetterN wrote:

Just like to chime in that this is what finally fixed my issues with KDE4 apps using the wrong color scheme. The kdeglobals file in .kde4 was the culprit, once I copied the color info from the .kde kdeglobals file into the .kde4 version, everything is using the proper color scheme now, yay!

Still I don't know where to find .kde folder, in my home I've got only .kde4.

roentgen · 2014-10-22 09:38:16

dartfira wrote:

Still I don't know where to find .kde folder, in my home I've got only .kde4.

Most KDE stuff is in .config now.

capitalaslash · 2014-10-22 10:03:32

I see that all kde4 applications (such as dolphin, konsole) depend on kdebase-runtime that is not co-installable with plasma-next.

Andrea Scarpino wrote on arch-dev-public

If you install Plasma 5 you will not be able to switch from KDE 4 to Plasma 5
just by logging out from your X session, but the good news is that you can run
any KDE 4 application over Plasma 5 because there are very few (or almost
none) that really require kdebase-workspace to work.

but I don't understand how to do it...
help would be much appreciated

dartfira · 2014-10-22 10:06:10

capitalaslash wrote:

I see that all kde4 applications (such as dolphin, konsole) depend on kdebase-runtime that is not co-installable with plasma-next.
Andrea Scarpino wrote on arch-dev-public
If you install Plasma 5 you will not be able to switch from KDE 4 to Plasma 5
just by logging out from your X session, but the good news is that you can run
any KDE 4 application over Plasma 5 because there are very few (or almost
none) that really require kdebase-workspace to work.
but I don't understand how to do it...
help would be much appreciated

# pacman -Rdd kdebase-runtime
Remove the package without its dependencies https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa … g_packages

roentgen wrote:

dartfira wrote:
Still I don't know where to find .kde folder, in my home I've got only .kde4.
Most KDE stuff is in .config now.

Nothing, I've found the kdeglobal but nothing change in dolphin or even firefox, still the old color scheme and theme.

Last edited by dartfira (2014-10-22 10:10:06)

arojas · 2014-10-22 10:32:36

capitalaslash wrote:

I see that all kde4 applications (such as dolphin, konsole) depend on kdebase-runtime that is not co-installable with plasma-next.

Only khelpcenter conflicts with kdebase-runtime. Don't install khelpcenter if you want to use KDE4 applications, you can use khelpcenter from kdebase-runtime instead.

capitalaslash · 2014-10-22 10:34:55

dartfira wrote:

# pacman -Rdd kdebase-runtime
Remove the package without its dependencies https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pa … g_packages

I was able to build the relevant packages from abs removing the kdebase-runtime dependency, thanks.
shouldn't it be removed form the repos too?

capitalaslash · 2014-10-22 10:39:52

arojas wrote:

Only khelpcenter conflicts with kdebase-runtime. Don't install khelpcenter if you want to use KDE4 applications, you can use khelpcenter from kdebase-runtime instead.

this is a even better solution!
it should be mentioned in the wiki that khelpcenter prevents the co-installability of all the kde4 apps

ugjka · 2014-10-22 13:13:35

How do you change themes for kde4 apps on kf5/plasma5. I installed breeze-kde4 but can't find the settings for kde4

arojas · 2014-10-22 15:06:14

ugjka wrote:

How do you change themes for kde4 apps on kf5/plasma5. I installed breeze-kde4 but can't find the settings for kde4

qtconfig-qt4

ugjka · 2014-10-22 15:53:43

arojas wrote:

ugjka wrote:
How do you change themes for kde4 apps on kf5/plasma5. I installed breeze-kde4 but can't find the settings for kde4
qtconfig-qt4

I changed the gui style to Breeze, kde4 apps still look the same. Rebooting didn't help either.

sl1pkn07 · 2014-10-22 17:13:33

copy .config/kdeglobals (or .kde/share/config/kdeglobals) to .kde4/share/config/kdeglobals

(remeber backup that file)

Last edited by sl1pkn07 (2014-10-22 17:14:05)

ugjka · 2014-10-22 17:31:29

sl1pkn07 wrote:

copy .config/kdeglobals (or .kde/share/config/kdeglobals) to .kde4/share/config/kdeglobals
(remeber backup that file)

Thanks, that worked!

bhoppi · 2014-10-23 12:07:48

Why there are two "kdeglobals" files?

arojas · 2014-10-23 14:51:38

bhoppi wrote:

Why there are two "kdeglobals" files?

Because KDE4 apps save their settings to .kde4/share/config, and Plasma 5 uses the standard $XDG_CONFIG_HOME instead

Kleinermann9 · 2014-10-24 15:03:24

haagch wrote:

haagch wrote:
edit: There are quite some frameworks git packages in the AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?K=frameworks-git
Is there some repository that would provide nightly builds or so?
I made one:
[frameworks-git]
Server = http://haagch.frickel.club/files/frameworks-git
64 bit only.
I Don't know how often I will update it.
I hope it doesn't create too much traffic.

I would like to use your repository. But I can not install any application, because pacman needs your signature.
Is it possible that you can share your signature?

Thank you for building this repository.

nierro · 2014-10-24 15:27:38

@Kleinermann9: Add a "SigLevel = Never" line just after the [frameworks-git] line.

Kleinermann9 · 2014-10-24 15:47:52

@nierro: Thank you very much. That worked perfect

nierro · 2014-10-25 08:49:31

I wanted to report that since yesterday upgrade, it won't start on my laptop.
"Could not start kdeinit5. Check your installation." and then it kills X.
Anybody else?

EDIT: the "wrong" commits appear to be "Fix libexec install dir".
I upgraded:

kauth
kconfig
kdesu
kio
kinit
kdelibs4support
kde-cli-tools
khotkeys
kwin
kxmlgui

It was just a rebuild though.

Last edited by nierro (2014-10-25 08:52:43)

hifi25nl · 2014-10-25 08:58:18

I have installed kde5 with sddm but firstly I had an error message about file not found: /usr/lib/libexec/kf5/start_kdeinit_wrapper.

I had to change /usr/lib/libexec/kf5/start_kdeinit_wrapper
to
/usr/lib/kf5/start_kdeinit_wrapper

in startkde

arojas · 2014-10-25 09:06:58

nierro wrote:

I wanted to report that since yesterday upgrade, it won't start on my laptop.
"Could not start kdeinit5. Check your installation." and then it kills X.

It is caused bu kinit 5.3.0-2. Either downgrade kinit or edit startkde as explained in hifi25nl's post

nierro · 2014-10-25 09:14:58

Wow, thanks!

bhoppi · 2014-10-25 09:17:01

arojas wrote:

bhoppi wrote:
Why there are two "kdeglobals" files?
Because KDE4 apps save their settings to .kde4/share/config, and Plasma 5 uses the standard $XDG_CONFIG_HOME instead

No, I mean KDE5 uses two "kdeglobals" files, one is in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME, another in .kde/share/config.

arojas · 2014-10-25 09:44:50

bhoppi wrote:

No, I mean KDE5 uses two "kdeglobals" files, one is in $XDG_CONFIG_HOME, another in .kde/share/config.

KF5 and Plasma 5 do not use the .kde folder, that file must come from somewhere else. IIRC .kde was used in KDE3 times.

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