KF 5 & Plasma

hifi25nl · 2014-10-25 13:37:44

I would like to use breeze icons for kde4 dolphin. Now dolphin has the breeze theme (using qconfig-qt4) but icons are the old oxygen type.

LucetLux · 2014-10-25 15:14:52

hifi25nl wrote:

I would like to use breeze icons for kde4 dolphin. Now dolphin has the breeze theme (using qconfig-qt4) but icons are the old oxygen type.

You can use "kcmshell4 icons" to change kde4 icons.

hifi25nl · 2014-10-25 15:57:26

Thanks,..what about Gtk apps look? Is there a way to use breeze?

Last edited by hifi25nl (2014-10-25 15:57:54)

sl1pkn07 · 2014-10-25 16:14:18

with https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kde- … rameworks/ or https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kde-gtk-config-git/

Meirion · 2014-10-26 06:45:36

I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.

arojas · 2014-10-26 07:03:11

Meirion wrote:

I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p1469367

Last edited by arojas (2014-10-26 07:05:05)

hifi25nl · 2014-10-26 08:46:21

Plasma 5 is generally stable but...

1) Regional settings are not saved correctly or there is something wrong: in my case the language of kde is a mixed Italian and English. If I choose American in regional settings nothing is changed.
2) Keyboard settings are not working correctly: I have "it" and "us" but I cannot switch between the two layouts (keyboard icon is missing and keyboard shortcut can switch only to "us")
3) "Add widget" and "add activity" are working for a few seconds and after there is a plasma crash
4) GTK applications now have the same look of qt applications but the folder icon is always brown (I have selected "breeze" in gtk settings module that I have installed from AUR)

Ravior · 2014-10-26 09:59:06

Meirion wrote:

I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.

I have the same problem on my machine. When you try to log in, sddm exits with: "Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1". My attempt starting kde manually also failed miserably.
I've thought it was a problem with the latest mesa release (messing up the bumblebee configuration), but I'm not so sure anymore.
If you have SDDM and KDE5, you might want to delay your update a bit until this problem is figured out.

clfarron4 · 2014-10-26 11:15:06

Ravior wrote:

Meirion wrote:
I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.
I have the same problem on my machine. When you try to log in, sddm exits with: "Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1". My attempt starting kde manually also failed miserably.
I've thought it was a problem with the latest mesa release (messing up the bumblebee configuration), but I'm not so sure anymore.
If you have SDDM and KDE5, you might want to delay your update a bit until this problem is figured out.

Maybe this, as a previous poster suggested: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p1469367

joffe · 2014-10-26 11:42:46

Meirion wrote:

I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.

Similar to this bug?

KDE Bug report 339719

joffe · 2014-10-26 11:49:03

Ravior wrote:

Meirion wrote:
I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.
I have the same problem on my machine. When you try to log in, sddm exits with: "Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1". My attempt starting kde manually also failed miserably.
I've thought it was a problem with the latest mesa release (messing up the bumblebee configuration), but I'm not so sure anymore.
If you have SDDM and KDE5, you might want to delay your update a bit until this problem is figured out.

looks like youre having an Auth problem.

You cant start sddm as normal user.

sddm should normaly be started trough: sudo sddm or sudo systemctl start sddm

joffe · 2014-10-26 12:00:04

clfarron4 wrote:

Ravior wrote:
Meirion wrote:
I had plasma-next installed and working fine a week ago. Then yesterday it wouldn't start.. just got a black screen and mouse pointer after logging in and never moved on to the splash screen. Thought it was due to the upgrade of plasma-frameworks but reverting back to the previous version did not solve it. Any ideas what has happened? Reverted back to kde4 in the meantime.
I have the same problem on my machine. When you try to log in, sddm exits with: "Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1". My attempt starting kde manually also failed miserably.
I've thought it was a problem with the latest mesa release (messing up the bumblebee configuration), but I'm not so sure anymore.
If you have SDDM and KDE5, you might want to delay your update a bit until this problem is figured out.
Maybe this, as a previous poster suggested: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p1469367

clfarron4:
Your reference is valid if you get the "Can not start kdeinit5. Check your installation" message while logging into kde through X11.
I got this message after upgrading last night. I was tired and fixed it the easy way.
I rolledback to an older kdeinit package which can be found in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/. It worked fine fore me.

As its the first time i se the real solution i have to say it makes me happy its just an edit of startkde.

pelmennoteam · 2014-10-26 13:20:39

joffe wrote:

clfarron4 wrote:
Ravior wrote:
I have the same problem on my machine. When you try to log in, sddm exits with: "Auth: sddm-helper exited with 1". My attempt starting kde manually also failed miserably.
I've thought it was a problem with the latest mesa release (messing up the bumblebee configuration), but I'm not so sure anymore.
If you have SDDM and KDE5, you might want to delay your update a bit until this problem is figured out.
Maybe this, as a previous poster suggested: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 7#p1469367
clfarron4:
Your reference is valid if you get the "Can not start kdeinit5. Check your installation" message while logging into kde through X11.
I got this message after upgrading last night. I was tired and fixed it the easy way.
I rolledback to an older kdeinit package which can be found in /var/cache/pacman/pkg/. It worked fine fore me.
As its the first time i se the real solution i have to say it makes me happy its just an edit of startkde.

ln -s /usr/lib/kf5 /usr/lib/libexec/kf5

Meirion · 2014-10-26 15:26:44

Great - thanks for the answers guys. In fact I see a new release of kinit in the repositories that seems to address the issue.

joffe · 2014-10-26 15:31:06

Meirion wrote:

Great - thanks for the answers guys. In fact I see a new release of kinit in the repositories that seems to address the issue.

Hi again.

Yes. Just found the new updates myself. It adresses the kinit problem.

Meirion · 2014-10-26 15:36:09

Yep, installed the new updates and re-installed plasma-next group and I'm back in business again.

tghe-retford · 2014-10-26 16:30:55

sl1pkn07 wrote:

with https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kde- … rameworks/ or https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kde-gtk-config-git/

Thank you for the links. For some odd reason, the breeze theme is missing completely for GTK2 and GTK3 options in my install if I go to KDE's GTK config and look within the drop down options. Obviously the theme is available for KF5 and KDE4 applications. Oxygen-GTK2/3 appears but Breeze has gone AWOL. Reinstalled plasma-next and still nothing. Not sure why others have it and I don't..?

Archange · 2014-10-26 17:23:20

tghe-retford wrote:

sl1pkn07 wrote:
with https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kde- … rameworks/ or https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/kde-gtk-config-git/
Thank you for the links. For some odd reason, the breeze theme is missing completely for GTK2 and GTK3 options in my install if I go to KDE's GTK config and look within the drop down options. Obviously the theme is available for KF5 and KDE4 applications. Oxygen-GTK2/3 appears but Breeze has gone AWOL. Reinstalled plasma-next and still nothing. Not sure why others have it and I don't..?

I’m having exactly the same things as you, I’m not sure there is a Breeze GTK theme for now, oxygen for GTK is provided by specific packages, so I suppose something similar will land some day for Breeze.

tghe-retford · 2014-10-26 17:29:53

Archange wrote:

I’m having exactly the same things as you, I’m not sure there is a Breeze GTK theme for now, oxygen for GTK is provided by specific packages, so I suppose something similar will land some day for Breeze.

I thought that at first, but then again, looking at this post from earlier on:

hifi25nl wrote:

4) GTK applications now have the same look of qt applications but the folder icon is always brown (I have selected "breeze" in gtk settings module that I have installed from AUR)

hifi25nl · 2014-10-26 19:33:38

I have breeze only for icon theme, not for gtk2 or gtk3!

tghe-retford · 2014-10-26 20:07:05

hifi25nl wrote:

I have breeze only for icon theme, not for gtk2 or gtk3!

Ah, a simple misunderstanding. Even then, the Breeze icons don't seem to be applied to GTK applications and I don't think ever have for quite a while now for GTK3 applications.

veaceslav · 2014-10-26 21:55:36

Hello,

today I also installed plasma-next, and of course run into some issues...

1. No skype sys tray icon(there are other, but skype is more inportant). OpenSuse recommend to install sni-qt, but sni-qt depends on qt-ubuntu, which fails to compile on my computer. Also, I'm not sure if I need the lib32 version, which I don't know how to compile

2. Kmix is not automatically started and there is no sys tray icon for it. Adding it on autostart can solve the problem, but it is not minimized.

If someone know how to address the following issues, I will be glad to hear.

Except this, plasma next is really fast and I like it.

Archange · 2014-10-26 22:14:14

For systray:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2 … asma-next/
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p1467892

And one more here I’ve just stumbled upon:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2 … ray-icons/

arojas, ilpianista: did you take this into account?

Last edited by Archange (2014-10-26 22:18:59)

tumas · 2014-10-27 07:03:53

Following your enthusiasm i installed a fresh archlinux system with plasma next and KF5. After failing to boot from sddm (it was related to the symlink bug mentioned above) i was very pleased by the look of plasma next. I really like it a lot, but there are still so many things to do. No Kmix on a fresh install (which also means, no sound at all) and all in all quite a laggy experience made me switch back to KDE4. With Breeze-Themes in the official repositories KDE4 can look just as beautiful as KDE5 (at least in my opinion).

arojas · 2014-10-27 07:44:34

Archange wrote:

arojas, ilpianista: did you take this into account?

There's nothing that can be done at the Plasma level. The maintainer of libappindicator in AUR is a TU, you can ask him to move it to the repos, and then file bugs against gtk apps that support it to have them compiled against it.

Arch Linux

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