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burgertime

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Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

After a long battle to install Arch along side OSX on my Macbook Air, I'm ready to set up Gnome but I wanted to know -because I read it is a work in progress- if Wayland is the way to go or should I just go with Xorg?

Thanks!

Vistaus

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

GNOME Shell Wayland session 3.14 doesn't even start over here on Arch. So not recommended by me.

clfarron4

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

GNOME Shell Wayland session 3.14 doesn't even start over here on Arch. So not recommended by me.

This, along with the point that most of the other major DEs's are at different stages of working out support for Wayland (from not at all to it might work) would probably signal that X is probably the choice if you want a GUI to run.

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Head_on_a_Stick

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

My GNOME Wayland session starts and runs fine and the compositing (especially in respect of screen tearing) is the best I have ever used.

Unfortunately, the synaptics driver fails under Wayland (a known issue), so I can't use it on my laptop

EDIT: Intel HD4600

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

GNOME Shell Wayland session 3.14 doesn't even start over here on Arch. So not recommended by me.

Did you try to install xorg-server-xwayland? I tried wayland desktop several times and as of today it is almost usable (except Synaptics driver won't load).

My GNOME Wayland session starts and runs fine and the compositing (especially in respect of screen tearing) is the best I have ever used.

Unfortunately, the synaptics driver fails under Wayland (a known issue), so I can't use it on my laptop sad

EDIT: Intel HD4600

Ok, tried to find more about this topic, but failed could you tell me where to get updates to this issue?

Head_on_a_Stick

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

Ok, tried to find more about this topic, but failed could you tell me where to get updates to this issue?

Unfortunately not -- my comment was based on a statement made by another user in a thread some months ago.

I didn't even try to research it further because the non-wayland GNOME compositor works almost as well anyway and better than the kwin equivalent or compton.

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progandy

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

I prefer a tiling wm, so wayland doesn't work for me yet.

Unfortunately, the synaptics driver fails under Wayland (a known issue), so I can't use it on my laptop

Even if it works, it feels unpolished. I also don't like the settings for my touchpad, but libinput doesn't allow me to change them. When the rest works, I'll have to patch libinput I guess.

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drcouzelis

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

I think the only Linux distributions that currently officially support Wayland are:

1. RebeccaBlackOS

2. SailfishOS

89c51

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

I think the only Linux distributions that currently officially support Wayland are:

1. RebeccaBlackOS

Which is a test thing AFAIK

1. SailfishOS

Which is a mobile OS.

So the answer is NO. DEs need a lot of work to get things at Xorg level. And then there are apps.

blackout23

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

I prefer a tiling wm, so wayland doesn't work for me yet.

Unfortunately, the synaptics driver fails under Wayland (a known issue), so I can't use it on my laptop

Even if it works, it feels unpolished. I also don't like the settings for my touchpad, but libinput doesn't allow me to change them. When the rest works, I'll have to patch libinput I guess.

There are tiling wayland compositors. They're all listed in the wiki.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5thcLnLHkjs

I don't have any issues with Gnome on Wayland appart from minor input issues.
Won't start with prop. drivers or if you don't have xorg-server-xwayland installed.

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GWQh_DmDLKQ

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dajonker

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Re: Is Wayland suggested by the community here?

Gnome on Wayland works just fine on my Haswell laptop. Some small bugs remain but it I have been running it succesfully for a couple of months now.