Gnome 2.14 Release

geekner · 2006-03-18 08:55:19

It worked! Thank you for making this release!

Blaasvis · 2006-03-18 10:53:41

_Gandalf_ wrote:

@Blaasvis gnome works, but not libnotify... try it man... it does not work so better removing it too from gnome dependencies ...

well libnotify is hard linked, so it is needed.
Not everyone would like the notification so you need to install notification-daemon on your own.
Same goes for beagle, you will need to install beagle to use the new functionality. but it isn't a requirement.

And i want stuff to still link to it, so people who want to use it can.

jinn · 2006-03-18 12:37:24

@Gandalf

I tried your guide to make gnome-power-manager to work, but unfortunately it didnt..

[jinn@estergon ~]$ sudo -s
[root@estergon ~]# /etc/rc.d/dbus restart
:: Stopping D-BUS system messagebus                                      [DONE] 
:: Starting D-BUS system messagebus                                      [DONE] 
[root@estergon ~]# /etc/rc.d/powersaved restart
:: Stopping Powersaving Daemon                                           [FAIL] 
:: Starting Hardware Abstraction Layer                                   [DONE] 
:: Starting Powersave Daemon                                             [DONE] 
[root@estergon ~]# gnome-power-manager 
[root@estergon ~]# gnome-power-manager --version
Gnome gnome-power-manager 2.14.0
[root@estergon ~]#

when I try to start the gnome-power-manager i get a warning window saying that
" dbus must be started in order to work:
eval 'dbus-launch --auto-syntax' "

I do the recommended command getting this:

[root@estergon ~]# eval 'dbus-launch --auto-syntax'
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS='unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-sAL2MBxzvL,guid=7f7d1c4437c6f9121bccff0017cea100';
export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS;
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID=4507;
[root@estergon ~]#

still doesnt help.. what am I doing wrong?

RaLX · 2006-03-18 13:50:14

geekner wrote:

I think I fixed the problem, had to install the deps then run pacman -U for the "corrupted" files, they installed properly. Weird, now to restart and see if it works.

I did come late, the problem is with the checksum info on the package, I fixed the checksum in /var/lib/pacman and worked fine.

@Blaasvis check that when you have time. By the way thanks for the release!

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-18 14:33:54

@jinn just reboot your computer....

jinn · 2006-03-18 15:44:55

Tried rebooting, even thought I had rebooted a couple of times.. still the same result . complaining about dbus not being started..

http://www.picfury.com/0/Screenshot-1-1.html

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-18 17:32:23

@jinn I discovered a problem with it, but that will be Blaasvis job to fix coe i donno where to look, anyway here's the sympthom..:
If i start my PC with Init 5 ( i have GDM turn on at init 5 not in rc.conf if it makes a difference ), Gnome power manager does start..

If i go and switch to init 3 and startx myself, whatever i do, i get the same error as you jinn, So i guess it is something either related to init running or gdm...

Try using this... having init 5 instead of init 3, just replace

id:3:initdefault:

with

id:5:initdefault:

and try...

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-18 17:51:07

Again a temporary fix from Blaasvis:
@ jinn
replace

exec gnome-session

with

exec /usr/bin/dbus-launch /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-session

in your ~/.xinitrc

NOTE: sometimes panel hang for me, i just
rm -rf /tmp/*-username
as root
PLEASE pay attention when u type it, it's an rm -rf command so don't execute it unless u Triple check it

Thikasabrik · 2006-03-18 18:03:13

Okay, trying out new gnome I find a few issues...

-gnome-volume-manager doesn't seem to do its job (no volumes are auto-mounted but hal/nautilus does notice new volumes)

-gnome-mount breaks mounting/unmounting. pmount works.

-the bad plugins from gstreamer are useful - I certainly hope they get a place in unstable

-Abiword documents get a mime-type conflict (extension suggests abiword, content apparently suggests a plain text file)

-Desktop icons seem to get rearranged (not prettily) on every start (didn't happen previously, happens even with 'keep-aligned' off)

-I wish there was a double-decker panel..

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-18 18:07:26

Thikasabrik wrote:

-gnome-volume-manager doesn't seem to do its job (no volumes are auto-mounted but hal/nautilus does notice new volumes)
-gnome-mount breaks mounting/unmounting. pmount works.

Is your user a member of the storage group ? <code>id</code> might help u
if not then

gpasswd -a username storage

and reboot

Blaasvis · 2006-03-18 18:08:40

Thikasabrik wrote:

Okay, trying out new gnome I find a few issues...
-gnome-volume-manager doesn't seem to do its job (no volumes are auto-mounted but hal/nautilus does notice new volumes)

will take a look

Thikasabrik wrote:

-gnome-mount breaks mounting/unmounting. pmount works.

we aren't going to use gnome-mount, for now it is way to unstable. please remove it

Thikasabrik wrote:

-the bad plugins from gstreamer are useful - I certainly hope they get a place in unstable

ask JGC

Thikasabrik wrote:

-Abiword documents get a mime-type conflict (extension suggests abiword, content apparently suggests a plain text file)

hmmm need to look at it, i never use abiowrd

Thikasabrik wrote:

-Desktop icons seem to get rearranged (not prettily) on every start (didn't happen previously, happens even with 'keep-aligned' off)

noticed that too, do not have a fix for it right now.

enigmabr · 2006-03-18 18:13:51

Hi....

where is gail-2.14, libgnome-canvas packages? They're necessary for install gnome-2.14. I don't found them in testing, Blaasvis repositories...

Thanks for any help!

_Gandalf_ · 2006-03-18 18:21:21

u don't need gail-2.14, and it's libgnomecanavas -> ftp://schoolbak.dyndns.org/pub/archlinu … pkg.tar.gz

P.S: please hold one, Blaasvis updating his repo

enigmabr · 2006-03-18 18:37:43

Thanks for reply so quickly!!!

Pacman says that packages are needed.... but I will wait for Blaavis repository update...

What the order of repositories in pacman.conf?
In my pacman.conf, the order is: testing, current, gnome2.14 and extra... This is the correct order?
I order matters, ok?

Thanks again!

Blaasvis · 2006-03-18 18:56:50

update complete

- if beagle is installed it now will start beagled on startup
- gnome 2.14 is complete now
- totem-xine added
- pmount rebuild against dbus 0.61
- dbus-sharp rebuild against dbus 0.61
- liferea rebuilded against dubs 0.61

order matters

gnome2.13 > testing > extra > current.

jinn · 2006-03-18 20:46:42

Thank you gandalf & blaasvis! it works now!

A couple of things that not working for me:

1. cant run gaim any more:

[jinn@estergon ~]$ gaim
gaim: error while loading shared libraries: libdbus-glib-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[jinn@estergon ~]$

2. when removing the cable and running on battery, the icon doesnt change to battery.. still shows cable. Had this problem with the normal battery applet also.

3. When trying to enable metacity composite extensions program with gconf-editor, its not there.. any ideas why?

thank you guys again for the good work.

cheers mates!
Jinn

stavrosg · 2006-03-18 21:05:24

A gstreamer question: 0.10.4 was released a few days ago. Is it going to hit the repos before the move to current?
0.10.3 has a serious playback-related bug that got fixed in the next version, and maybe there is a program or two out there that requre it

jinn · 2006-03-18 21:21:10

hey,

Fixed some of my problems.

I added powersaved to rc.conf.. totally forgot about this one.. now the battery icon works as it should.

reinstalled gaim, works fine now

whats left is only the metacity thing.

Oh yeah, Ive got suspend to ram working also sweet!!!

For you other guys with i915 chipset you need to add acpi_sleep=s3_bios as kernel parameter for grub.

cheers!
Jinn

RaLX · 2006-03-18 23:13:52

I have been trying it, and till now I have one problem (already solved) and one question.

The problem was that Gnome Keyboard Preference doesn't work for me, when changing layout the Gnome Theme lose the configuration (very weird) and keyboard layout doesn't change. I solved it changing layout directly in xorg.conf.

The question is if Gnome can't save windows size? (I'm a KDE regular user trying Gnome one more time) and every time I open Terminal for example, need to resize the window, and that's annoying indeed.

So far the rest is all fine .

Thanks for release the package for testing it very soon.

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-18 23:50:26

Okay, a few questions...

1. Blaasvis, can you please include epiphany-extensions and totem-plugin in your repo? Sorry if I'm being too demanding, but these can come in handy.

2. Starting dbus manually via .xinitrc doesn't seem to satisfy Epiphany. How do I start dbus in that fashion so that I can have Epiphany working without using GDM?

3. At the risk of being redundant... Is there a way to make Epiphany stop asking me if I want to store my passwords? :oops:

Also, FWIW, I'm pretty impressed with Gnome 2.14's speed... It starts up fast, and start time for applications is shorter under it than under 2.12. However, Metacity is still not so great - it's not sluggish any more, at least, but moving windows track all over the place. I'm beginning to think this window manager is in need of a complete rewrite.

JGC · 2006-03-19 00:08:18

Starting dbus from .xinitrc isn't such a big deal:

exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-session

About GStreamer: I hope to move things to testing tomorrow. I'm still busy with cleaning up the docbook DTD stuff on archlinux, if that one is done I'll start with GStreamer is Blaasvis didn't start it yet

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-19 00:20:00

JGC wrote:

Starting dbus from .xinitrc isn't such a big deal:
exec dbus-launch --exit-with-session /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-session

That's how I was starting dbus, but I suppose I'll try again. :?

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-19 00:52:59

Uh, while we're at it - is the bug that Stavrosg mentioned the one that keeps GST-based apps from playing anything *at all*? :shock:

geekner · 2006-03-19 03:29:25

Gullible Jones wrote:

Uh, while we're at it - is the bug that Stavrosg mentioned the one that keeps GST-based apps from playing anything *at all*? :shock:

Are you using alsasink? What program are you using specifically? I was having a problem getting alsasink to work, but osssink would work normally. After looking around I found a gentoo wiki article where they suggested adding "period-size=1024 buffer-size=4096" to the alsasink parameters, that fixed it for me.

For example, in amarok, under settings > configure > engine, choose gstreamer then set the output plugin to alsasink, then check "Parameters" and add:

period-size=1024 buffer-size=4096

It should work, if not try osssink, if osssink doesnt work, then its a different problem.

Gullible Jones · 2006-03-19 04:04:41

Was using Auto, actually. Tried both OSS and ALSA, still doesn't work.

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