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#1 2015-01-11 20:10:42

hooya
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Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

Trying to install anything from AUR is no longer working, I always get 404 errors during the mkpkg when the source download tries to happen. I can't even grab the tarball from the terminal with curl using an https address. Happens on all packages.

Additionally, Dropbox is no longer seeing a connection to the internet.

I am not behind a proxy. I have never set up any proxy settings. I have a typical Comcast residential connection. Browsers access http and https just fine.

I honestly don't know where to start troubleshooting on this.

http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ shows all my ports are closed, but this should be normal as I'm not trying to serve anything from this computer.

Anyone that finds this. Still an unsolved problem.

Last edited by hooya (2015-02-17 19:46:09)

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#2 2015-01-11 20:26:00

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

does this command work?

wget http://code.falconindy.com/archive/cower/cower-12.tar.gz

edit: Dang bots 'fixing' my post .. Grrr...

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#3 2015-01-11 20:27:40

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

No.

wget http://code.falconindy.com/archive/cower/cower-12.tar.gz--2015-01-11 14:27:06--  http://code.falconindy.com/archive/cower/cower-12.tar.gz
Resolving code.falconindy.com (code.falconindy.com)... 192.168.0.10
Connecting to code.falconindy.com (code.falconindy.com)|192.168.0.10|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
2015-01-11 14:27:06 ERROR 404: Not Found.

Downloads just fine through Chromium browser if I just copy and paste the link though. Again, I have NO proxies set up anywhere, and Chromium is set to use my machine settings.

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#4 2015-01-11 20:29:22

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

See my edit.  My post had been transmogrophied when I posted.
What about

wget google.com

?


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#5 2015-01-11 20:31:44

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

I saw the improper BBC tags and stripped them before running the command and stripped them out.

Testing with google.com did work.

Pacman will work with -Sy however if I tried to enter a custom repository those return with 403 or 404

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#6 2015-01-11 20:34:29

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

try

$ ip route
$ ping 8.8.8.8
$ ping www.google.com
$ nslookup opendns.org

do it good first, it will be faster than do it twice the saint wink

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#7 2015-01-11 20:37:13

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

Okay, that is weird.  I fetched that very file from falconindy's site just before I made my post.

Here is a traceroute from my system to their's. 

ewaller@odin ~/devel/build/cower [2]1011 %traceroute code.falconindy.com 
traceroute to code.falconindy.com (96.126.110.212), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  router.local (192.168.1.1)  1.240 ms  1.726 ms  2.326 ms
 2  * * *
 3  dtr02psdnca-tge-0-3-1-3.psdn.ca.charter.com (<Redacted>)  18.525 ms  18.734 ms  19.393 ms
 4  dtr01psdnca-tge-0-1-0-2.psdn.ca.charter.com (96.34.99.144)  19.655 ms dtr01psdnca-tge-0-0-0-2.psdn.ca.charter.com (96.34.99.140)  17.215 ms dtr01psdnca-tge-0-0-0-3.psdn.ca.charter.com (96.34.99.142)  18.324 ms
 5  crr01mtpkca-tge-0-4-0-0.mtpk.ca.charter.com (96.34.98.85)  24.377 ms  25.303 ms crr01mtpkca-tge-0-1-0-6.mtpk.ca.charter.com (96.34.96.40)  20.289 ms
 6  bbr01mtpkca-bue-2.mtpk.ca.charter.com (96.34.2.24)  22.120 ms  21.955 ms  21.691 ms
 7  bbr01rvsdca-bue-1.rvsd.ca.charter.com (96.34.0.22)  31.315 ms  19.289 ms  18.401 ms
 8  bbr01dllstx-bue-6.dlls.tx.charter.com (96.34.0.20)  59.441 ms  60.507 ms  59.921 ms
 9  bbr01blvlil-bue-4.blvl.il.charter.com (96.34.0.16)  78.731 ms  79.206 ms  77.519 ms
10  bbr01olvemo-bue-3.olve.mo.charter.com (96.34.0.14)  79.482 ms  80.175 ms  79.407 ms
11  bbr02chcgil-bue-2.chcg.il.charter.com (96.34.0.12)  82.929 ms  82.812 ms  80.534 ms
12  bbr02ashbva-bue-3.ashb.va.charter.com (96.34.0.59)  102.264 ms  99.619 ms  107.285 ms
13  prr01ashbva-bue-6.ashb.va.charter.com (96.34.3.89)  106.502 ms  97.164 ms  101.997 ms
14  eqix.ge-1-0-0.pr1.nac.net (206.126.236.69)  122.205 ms  118.666 ms  118.699 ms
15  0.e1-2.tbr2.mmu.nac.net (209.123.10.114)  103.714 ms  116.685 ms  114.735 ms
16  207.99.53.46 (207.99.53.46)  106.274 ms  101.992 ms  101.948 ms
17  code.falconindy.com (96.126.110.212)  104.373 ms  104.666 ms  100.795 ms
ewaller@odin ~/devel/build/cower 1012 %

Do you reach the same machine?


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#8 2015-01-11 20:46:11

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

ip route output

default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0  metric 202 
default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth0  proto static  metric 1024 
192.168.0.0/24 dev eth0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.0.11  metric 202 

pinging 8.8.8.8 looks like I would expect.

Same with ping google.com

nslookup output:

Server:		75.75.76.76
Address:	75.75.76.76#53

Non-authoritative answer:
opendns.org	canonical name = www.opendns.org.
Name:	www.opendns.org
Address: 67.215.92.210

Never used traceroute before. Installed it. Here's the entire output of " traceroute code.falconindy.com" not sure if I should do something else for syntax

traceroute to code.falconindy.com (192.168.0.10), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  192.168.0.10 (192.168.0.10)  4.245 ms  4.244 ms  4.238 ms

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#9 2015-01-11 20:49:38

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

Is it my router? I did get a new one recently, but because all web services have worked and pacman updates correctly I didn't think there was any problem until I noticed that dropbox wasn't connecting, then I had other problems when I started digging. It's a Netgear C3700, and I haven't done much of any tweaking or customization on it. The machine in question is connected through ethernet, not wifi.

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#10 2015-01-11 20:50:12

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

That is a problem.  You are not getting out of your private network (Note that the first set of digits is 192. ? )
What are the contents of /etc/resolv.conf   ?

Edit:  We were posting at the same time.  Yes, I suspect the DNS server in your router.

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#11 2015-01-11 20:54:59

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

# Generated by resolvconf
nameserver 75.75.76.76
nameserver 75.75.75.75
nameserver 2001:558:feed::2
nameserver 2001:558:feed::1

Weird problem on the router then. I'll check the DNS settings for it. Thought it might be port forwarding but that must not be it.

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#12 2015-01-11 21:02:17

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

Router was set to receive DNS from the ISP. The defaulted manual numbers were the same as in resolv.conf, and if I switch to the manual numbers with the router everything is giving me the same results.

I'm stuck...

Edit: The router has its own traceroute utility in a diagnostics section:

       

Performing traceroute to (216.58.216.68), 255 hops max, 72 byte packets

01 sendtotraceroute: wrote www.google.com 72 chars, ret=-1
 *sendtotraceroute: wrote www.google.com 72 chars, ret=-1
 *sendtotraceroute: wrote www.google.com 72 chars, ret=-1
 *
02 sendtotraceroute: wrote www.google.com 72 chars, ret=-1
 *
Traceroute FAILED.

idk...

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#13 2015-01-11 21:14:58

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

You need a local DNS, say dnsmasq.


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#14 2015-01-11 22:39:18

hooya
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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

I set up dnsmasq according to the wiki. No change at all in my connectivity for those apps - edit: actually it simply broke my network completely. So I either didn't set it up right or it does break things on my system.

I'm posting to this board from the effected computer. Traceroute on an android phone and on another arch linux machine on the same network (wifi) have no similar issues - all programs connect properly including dropbox and commands in the terminal. This is something broken on this computer, not something that needs fixing. No idea why the traceroute utility on the router itself doesn't work but I don't really care about that.

Any other thoughts? I'm fairly certain it's not a DNS problem now, and it's not a router problem, since other computers on the network have no similar issues.

If I use a net utility to traceroute I have no issuesl
http://www.monitis.com/traceroute/
Give me valid route results to various places online.

Just had a realization. My new router does not support IPv6 at all where my old router had some support. Stupid downgrade, but my old net connection was a separate router and modem, this was required to continue getting internet through our local cable company.

So it might be an IPv6 compatibility issue. Any way to just set everything to IPv4 globally on the computer? Would that fix it?

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#15 2015-01-11 23:18:12

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

If the traceroute indicates that falconindy's site maps to a private address inside your network, yes, you do have a DNS issue.

What about this:

wget http://96.126.110.212/archive/cower/cower-12.tar.gz

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#16 2015-01-11 23:20:18

hooya
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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

ewaller wrote:

If the traceroute indicates that falconindy's site maps to a private address inside your network, yes, you do have a DNS issue.

What about this:

wget http://96.126.110.212/archive/cower/cower-12.tar.gz

That worked. It's really unpredictable.

Also, see my above edit.

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#17 2015-01-12 01:39:52

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

hooya wrote:

So it might be an IPv6 compatibility issue. Any way to just set everything to IPv4 globally on the computer? Would that fix it?

I was starting to wonder that very thing.

Yes, it can be disabled.  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPv6#Disable_IPv6


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#18 2015-01-12 03:15:50

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

Looks like it was already turned off for my wired network in NetworkManager. I've added the indicated setting from the wiki for my dhcpcd conf and just rebooted with the kernel parameter through grub.

Dropbox still doesn't work, "traceroute code.falconindy.com" also doesn't work as before.

However, "traceroute 8.8.8.8" works just fine, as does "traceroute www.google.com". So it's not completely on my end. Some destinations don't like me.

Still can't load the db from that one repository or get the file from aur that I was trying for. I can download the tarball through the website but curl gives me an error:  Failed to connect to aur.archlinux.org port 443: Connection refused
this package: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/dropbox/

Failed to connect to aur.archlinux.org port 80: Connection refused

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#19 2015-01-30 03:00:46

hooya
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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

To update, I just tried loaded up a Virtualbox running Windows XP and dropbox from within that virtual machine connected just fine. There must be something specific to my network environment in Arch only that is causing the problem, as it's very service dependent. Still looking for a solution to this.

Is there a way that I can reset my entire network config as if my machine were a new install? I'm thinking about going nuclear. What is the current default network config program for new Arch installs? Thoughts on where to find what files I should remove to get old network configs out of my system?

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#20 2015-02-17 19:45:44

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Re: Some applications not connecting to the internet [SOLVED]

Turns out this may be a router issue. Plugging my desktop into another router that is then plugged into my cable modem router solves the connectivity issues. The Traceroute was stopping at not the router itself but the stupid Netgear "Readyshare" server that is built into the router, which was obviously not the right final destination. If this is a DNS issue or something else I don't know but the hardware change has at least solved the problem for now.

Still not sure why browsers and virtual machines would connect fine, and why it works in this new hardware config, but it works.

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