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Roken

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From: South Wales, UK

Registered: 2012-01-16

Posts: 1,290

There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

Xorg 1.18.0 enters [testing]

2015-11-13 - Laurent Carlier

Xorg 1.18.0 is entering [testing] with the following changes:

    You can now choose between xf86-input-evdev and xf86-input-libinput.

    xf86-input-aiptek will not be updated and will be removed when xorg-1.18.0 is moved to [extra]

Caveat:

NVIDIA drivers are not yet compatible with 1.18.0. You can block the upgrade by appending --ignoregroup=xorg to the pacman command or adding 'xorg' to IgnoreGroup in pacman.conf

Just adding xorg to ignoregroup doesn't work. I had to add xfc86* and xorg* to ignorepackage. Oh, and upgrading them definitely does break nvidia. Not happy at 8am on a Saturday morning with a hangover and a broken X Now fixed.

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Awebb

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Registered: 2010-05-06

Posts: 6,640

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

There was a news entry on the main page and it came over (and was discussed in) arch-general. How much more noise do you need?

WorMzy

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Registered: 2010-06-16

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Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

Moving to testing.

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Ropid

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Registered: 2015-03-09

Posts: 1,069

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

There was a news entry on the main page and it came over (and was discussed in) arch-general. How much more noise do you need?

There are some packages that are not in the "xorg" group, perhaps by mistake. For example:

$ pacman -Qi xorg-server-common | grep ^Groups
Groups         : None

$ pacman -Qi xorg-server | grep ^Groups
Groups         : xorg

The mail suggests that you might want to ignore the xorg group, but what I actually had to do was:

IgnorePkg = xorg-server-common xorg-server-xvfb xorg-server-xwayland
IgnoreGroup = modified xorg

Awebb

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Registered: 2010-05-06

Posts: 6,640

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

xorg-server-common is not in the xorg group, because it is a dependency of xorg-server. Now I understand what you mean. Maybe an email to Laurent, asking nicely to fix the news would be a good idea.

guerch

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Registered: 2014-09-11

Posts: 31

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

I think this update should remain in testing until nvidia supports it,  (just my 2c here) it's a big break to a huge portion of the userbase.

karol

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Registered: 2009-05-06

Posts: 25,440

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

I think Arch devs prefer not to wait for a closed source package to catch up.

Scimmia

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Registered: 2012-09-01

Posts: 12,182

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

I would say they prefer to wait, but not forever. This is the reason Catalyst was dropped, it kept holding back updates.

guerch

Member

Registered: 2014-09-11

Posts: 31

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

just released http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/95159  will support abi 2.0,  i would say it would be wise to wait just a bit

Awebb

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Registered: 2010-05-06

Posts: 6,640

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

Oh my. This isn't the first time and won't be the last time two packages delay each other. You noticed this time, that's all.

lordheavy

Developer

From: France

Registered: 2010-04-01

Posts: 292

Re: There should have been more noise about this - xorg 1.18 & NVidia

There was a news entry on the main page and it came over (and was discussed in) arch-general. How much more noise do you need?

There are some packages that are not in the "xorg" group, perhaps by mistake. For example:

$ pacman -Qi xorg-server-common | grep ^Groups
Groups         : None

$ pacman -Qi xorg-server | grep ^Groups
Groups         : xorg

The mail suggests that you might want to ignore the xorg group, but what I actually had to do was:

IgnorePkg = xorg-server-common xorg-server-xvfb xorg-server-xwayland
IgnoreGroup = modified xorg

This will be fixed in xorg-server-1.18.0-3