KF 5 & Plasma

sva_h4cky0 · 2015-12-15 08:27:41

Tromzy wrote:

How do you select a custom notification ? I don't see that option in "Notifications" in Systemsettings.

on system tray area > show hidden icons > right click on notifications, chose notifications settings

Tromzy · 2015-12-15 08:55:22

Thanks !

Edit : didn't fix it for me unfortunately.

Last edited by Tromzy (2015-12-15 11:12:50)

SteveK · 2015-12-15 19:49:01

flateric wrote:

SteveK wrote:
With regard to the notifications appearing left and right, I had this problem, but selecting to use a custom location in notifications settings seems to have solved the problem for me.
Please, try Logout/Login from DE and check if Yours notification settings is saved. For me not and I must set this every login.
Maybe similar bug is here: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356461

Ah yes, you're right. Setting it doesn't survive a logout.

Edit:
Seems to be fixed with the 5.5.1 update.

Last edited by SteveK (2015-12-15 20:26:54)

Potomac · 2015-12-16 00:57:52

since plasma 5.5.1 I notice a bug :

- sometimes the left mouse click is not detected when I click on the taskbar ( kickoff, K menu ), for example if firefox is minimized on the taskbar then sometimes a mouse click for restoring the firefox window doesn't work, I have to redo this mouse click in order to restore the window,

this bug doesn't occur with plasma 5.5.0,

I can reproduce this bug on my PC ( archlinux 64 bits ) and on a qemu virtual machine i686

cloudpen · 2015-12-16 04:30:03

This morning , I update plasma to 5.5.1, and reboot system. But the system tray still can't display some icon (such as wine QQ, some QT application), and the NetworkManager icon also can't display (just a blank area). How can I display this icon? Thanks.

idmresettrial · 2015-12-16 04:40:33

cloudpen wrote:

This morning , I update plasma to 5.5.1, and reboot system. But the system tray still can't display some icon (such as wine QQ, some QT application), and the NetworkManager icon also can't display (just a blank area). How can I display this icon? Thanks.

same problem here, but with the volume icon.
To display the icon, I move the panel to the right edge of screen, then move back, the icon would display until the next boot

Last edited by idmresettrial (2015-12-16 04:42:17)

cloudpen · 2015-12-16 04:51:04

Thank you. But the QQ's icon can't display in system tray.

agapito · 2015-12-16 06:01:01

Potomac wrote:

since plasma 5.5.1 I notice a bug :
- sometimes the left mouse click is not detected when I click on the taskbar ( kickoff, K menu ), for example if firefox is minimized on the taskbar then sometimes a mouse click for restoring the firefox window doesn't work, I have to redo this mouse click in order to restore the window,
this bug doesn't occur with plasma 5.5.0

I have this bug since 5.5; the last update (5.5.1) didn't fix it.

Potomac · 2015-12-16 10:23:09

agapito wrote:

Potomac wrote:
since plasma 5.5.1 I notice a bug :
- sometimes the left mouse click is not detected when I click on the taskbar ( kickoff, K menu ), for example if firefox is minimized on the taskbar then sometimes a mouse click for restoring the firefox window doesn't work, I have to redo this mouse click in order to restore the window,
this bug doesn't occur with plasma 5.5.0
I have this bug since 5.5; the last update (5.5.1) didn't fix it.

I 'm pretty sure that the bug doesn't exist with plasma 5.5.0, do you use testing repositories ?

I don't use testing repositories, for me the bug has began when plasma was upgraded to 5.5.1 version ( 2015-12-15 16:30 UTC ), I did a "pacman -Syu" on tuesday 2015-12-15 and it is at this date that this bug begins ( problem with mouse click on the taskbar )

it could be also related to Qt5 5.5.1-6

Potomac · 2015-12-16 10:28:40

well this bug seems fixed with plasma-workspace ( 5.5.1-4 ) today,

after the update of plasma-workspace and a reboot this weird bug disapears

arojas · 2015-12-16 11:49:32

Potomac wrote:

I 'm pretty sure that the bug doesn't exist with plasma 5.5.0, do you use testing repositories ?

It existed in the original 5.5.0 package. It got patched in a later release.

SanskritFritz · 2015-12-16 17:30:03

I tried two mirrors today, both fail on plasma-workspace:

error: failed retrieving file 'plasma-workspace-5.5.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.rackspace.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'plasma-workspace-5.5.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.mfa.kfki.hu : The requested URL returned error: 404

What is wrong?

Xabre · 2015-12-16 18:13:53

SanskritFritz wrote:

I tried two mirrors today, both fail on plasma-workspace:

error: failed retrieving file 'plasma-workspace-5.5.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.rackspace.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'plasma-workspace-5.5.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.mfa.kfki.hu : The requested URL returned error: 404

What is wrong?

Available here: http://mirror.one.com/archlinux/extra/o … pkg.tar.xz
So it seems like a mirror issue.

SanskritFritz · 2015-12-16 19:04:46

Xabre wrote:

SanskritFritz wrote:
I tried two mirrors today, both fail on plasma-workspace:
error: failed retrieving file 'plasma-workspace-5.5.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from mirror.rackspace.com : The requested URL returned error: 404
error: failed retrieving file 'plasma-workspace-5.5.1.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz' from ftp.mfa.kfki.hu : The requested URL returned error: 404
What is wrong?
Available here: http://mirror.one.com/archlinux/extra/o … pkg.tar.xz
So it seems like a mirror issue.

Thanks, true. Looks like I had an unfortunate choice of mirrors this time.

zanny · 2015-12-17 00:30:53

I must say I am amazed at the improvements todays round of patches and KF 5.17 wrought. On vanilla 5.5 I had my entire workspace broken every login with widgets going all over randomly and positioning resetting and my display configuration failing half the time. Today it all is working consistently and I've rebooted half a dozen times just to make sure. So 5.5 with 5.17 seems pretty good!

Last edited by zanny (2015-12-17 00:31:21)

agapito · 2015-12-17 00:42:09

zanny wrote:

I must say I am amazed at the improvements todays round of patches and KF 5.17 wrought. On vanilla 5.5 I had my entire workspace broken every login with widgets going all over randomly and positioning resetting and my display configuration failing half the time. Today it all is working consistently and I've rebooted half a dozen times just to make sure. So 5.5 with 5.17 seems pretty good!

+1

KF and Plasma 5.5 should be released at the same time to avoid incompatibility.

zanny · 2015-12-17 00:54:13

agapito wrote:

zanny wrote:
I must say I am amazed at the improvements todays round of patches and KF 5.17 wrought. On vanilla 5.5 I had my entire workspace broken every login with widgets going all over randomly and positioning resetting and my display configuration failing half the time. Today it all is working consistently and I've rebooted half a dozen times just to make sure. So 5.5 with 5.17 seems pretty good!
+1
KF and Plasma 5.5 should be released at the same time to avoid incompatibility.

KDE Frameworks is on a more rapid release cycle so they can better upstream support for new features that anyone using the frameworks uses. It is valuable that they release as often as they do, and Plasma's 4 month release cycle is more reasonable for a desktop than the monthly frameworks release cadence.

Yeah, it sucks when a new desktop is released ahead of the frameworks version its built against, but we are on Arch, after all. If the maintainers held back 5.5 until 5.17 came out there would have been a riot, or the Plasma guys could plan their releases around every fourth frameworks release if they really wanted to.

In the end its not that important. Frameworks is monthly so at worst we are a few weeks apart when Plasma breaks because of outdated frameworks, and the more Plasma matures the less this matters anyway.

tabsterleir · 2015-12-17 08:17:41

zanny wrote:

I must say I am amazed at the improvements todays round of patches and KF 5.17 wrought. On vanilla 5.5 I had my entire workspace broken every login with widgets going all over randomly and positioning resetting and my display configuration failing half the time. Today it all is working consistently and I've rebooted half a dozen times just to make sure. So 5.5 with 5.17 seems pretty good!

Absolutely agreed. I switched to GNOME 3 for a bit post-5.5 release but decided to come back with the newest release. The difference is night and day.

somekool · 2015-12-17 15:43:30

I just joined this thread ! I love KDE and ArchLinux

best setup ever.

curious if anyone KDE developer uses ArchLinux on a daily basis.
is there a recommended archlinux-way to get all of the required includes files and everything to be able to run a few applications from source.

I don't want to build everything from source, but I might like to try and debug one application from the master branch.

kate or konsole for example

thanks

snack · 2015-12-17 16:12:45

somekool wrote:

I just joined this thread ! I love KDE and ArchLinux
best setup ever.
curious if anyone KDE developer uses ArchLinux on a daily basis.
is there a recommended archlinux-way to get all of the required includes files and everything to be able to run a few applications from source.
I don't want to build everything from source, but I might like to try and debug one application from the master branch.
kate or konsole for example
thanks

Just install all the depends and makedepends packages specified in the PKGBUILD of the program of your interest. For example, the PKGBUILD of konsole gives:

depends=('kdelibs4support' 'knotifyconfig' 'kpty')
makedepends=('extra-cmake-modules' 'kdoctools' 'python')

student975 · 2015-12-17 23:41:21

Hi! What is plasmashell memory consumption on your system? Starting with ~100MB I have got ~830MB at the moment. Memory leak?
Nouveau driver is in use, if it takes matter.

Morn · 2015-12-17 23:53:01

About 183 MB for me ATM. 800 MB does seem like a lot. Are you using Plasma widgets/plasmoids or whatever they are called?

student975 · 2015-12-17 23:55:15

Morn wrote:

About 183 MB for me ATM. 800 MB does seem like a lot. Are you using Plasma widgets/plasmoids or whatever they are called?

Yes, I do: digital clock on the desktop and digital clock and system monitor ("circles") on the panel. But that's all.

Morn · 2015-12-18 00:08:57

student975 wrote:

Yes, I do: digital clock on the desktop and digital clock and system monitor ("circles") on the panel. But that's all.

Well, maybe create another user account with default KDE settings (just the clock in the task bar) and see if that makes a difference in memory usage.

student975 · 2015-12-18 00:19:38

Morn wrote:

student975 wrote:
Yes, I do: digital clock on the desktop and digital clock and system monitor ("circles") on the panel. But that's all.
Well, maybe create another user account with default KDE settings (just the clock in the task bar) and see if that makes a difference in memory usage.

Thanks. Probably it's simpler just to remove these widgets in my account as far as I don't know what to do at that new one Ok, I'll try to keep digital clock on the panel only for now and will see.

Why do you guess these simple widgets can influence the issue? Were there similar precedents?

Arch Linux

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