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#1 2016-05-20 18:50:52

phoenix69
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Updates cause boot loop

Hey there,

using Arch on Hyper-V (Windows 10) Gnome Desktop and Bootloader Grub. When I am using "pacman -Syu" to update my system the system every time goes into boot loop after restart. Have tried this mutliple times (because I am restoring snapshot before update). I sadly don't have the knowledge to figure out what is wrong with the update. see attached list of updates and failures. also boot screen.

Also it's not a classic boot loop it looks like arch is trying to start gnome but fails (deksop is flickering). This happens until like 1 minute until it remains in booting up (doing nothing).

http://i.imgur.com/AFVnrdk.png

Maybe you are able to help me out? Thanks a lot.

see log on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/eNjiezun

Could it be the (gconftool-2:4852): GConf-WARNING ** error? what could I do to avoid this?

What I did to fix: pacman -Syu --ignore linux, didn't help

Thanks for your support.

Last edited by phoenix69 (2016-05-20 18:55:27)

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#2 2016-05-20 19:47:52

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

This sounds like a GDM failure, not a boot issue: can you switch to a TTY? What is in your journal? Xorg log?


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#3 2016-05-20 20:07:49

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

can you explain how to switch to TTY? after upgrade (or restore snapshot) how to switch to TTY?

I am only able to boot a debian recovery image.

See journal:
http://i.imgur.com/CcYTyC1.png


Xorg.log
http://i.imgur.com/fFPmkYl.png

Thanks for helping me out!

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#4 2016-05-20 21:43:07

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Don't post screenshots of text, paste the actual text, and the full log, not a truncated version: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

According to your log, X is starting as it should, what it is supposed to start?

And, how can you have installed Arch and not know how to switch TTYs?


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#5 2016-05-21 10:37:18

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Did now a manual update of all packages. Only 9 are left and one or more of them are the cause:

Pakete (9) clang-3.8.0-1  libevdev-1.5.1-1  libinput-1.3.0-2  llvm-libs-3.8.0-1
           lvm2-2.02.150-1  mesa-11.2.2-1  mesa-libgl-11.2.2-1
           xf86-input-evdev-2.10.2-1  xf86-input-libinput-0.19.0-1

@jasonwryan

I would have posted it in text if this would be an easy task. but in fact thats a VM running an recovery dvd only.

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#6 2016-05-21 14:15:37

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

jasonwryan wrote:

Don't post screenshots of text, paste the actual text, and the full log, not a truncated version: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=57855

According to your log, X is starting as it should, what it is supposed to start?

And, how can you have installed Arch and not know how to switch TTYs?

Strg+Alt+F2 works on boot:
So now right log: (picture tho nopaste, dosen't create url hmm )

journalctl
http://i.imgur.com/YuvfTV5.png

startx output:
http://i.imgur.com/d0ItSYa.png

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#7 2016-05-21 18:35:59

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

If your system can access the internet, you can use a commandline paste service like sprunge or ix.io or ptpb.pw.


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#8 2016-05-21 19:11:21

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Thanks for that info @fsckd ptpb worked!

Full journalctl -b log:

http://pastebin.com/GwdYL269

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#9 2016-05-22 16:38:11

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Your problems appear to start when gdm is started.

please boot to conosle instead of X/gdm ( use kernel parameter   systemd.unit=multi-user.target ).

If that works, try running startx manually to verify if the problem is with gdm or X/gnome .


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#10 2016-05-22 17:33:33

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Your problems appear to start when gdm is started.

please boot to conosle instead of X/gdm ( use kernel parameter   systemd.unit=multi-user.target ).

If that works, try running startx manually to verify if the problem is with gdm or X/gnome .

Here you go (startx):

http://pastebin.com/bD42C2En

X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 4.2.5-1-ARCH x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux archhyper 4.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 11 22:21:28 CEST 2016 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=9d725af3-9fd2-40ec-b57f-db547fe01724 rw quiet systemd.unit=multi-user.target
Build Date: 05 April 2016  05:24:02PM

Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sun May 22 19:31:01 2016
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"

(process:1037): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/0/dconf': Keine Berechtigung.  dconf will not work properly.

(process:1037): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/0/dconf': Keine Berechtigung.  dconf will not work properly.

** (process:1036): WARNING **: Could not make bus activated clients aware of XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME environment variable: Could not connect: Permission denied
xinit: connection to X server lost

waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.

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#11 2016-05-23 11:07:40

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Were you logged in as root or as normal user ?

Does starting gnome-classic work ?


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#12 2016-05-23 18:12:22

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Were you logged in as root or as normal user ?

Does starting gnome-classic work ?

this is root:

X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 4.2.5-1-ARCH x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux archhyper 4.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 11 22:21:28 CEST 2016 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=9d725af3-9fd2-40ec-b57f-db547fe01724 rw quiet systemd.unit=multi-user.target
Build Date: 05 April 2016  05:24:02PM

Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon May 23 20:05:56 2016
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Zeile 51: twm: Kommando nicht gefunden.
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Zeile 55: exec: xterm: Nicht gefunden.
/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc: Zeile 52: xclock: Kommando nicht gefunden.
xinit: connection to X server lost

waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.

this is user:
X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 4.2.5-1-ARCH x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux archhyper 4.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 11 22:21:28 CEST 2016 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=9d725af3-9fd2-40ec-b57f-db547fe01724 rw quiet systemd.unit=multi-user.target
Build Date: 05 April 2016  05:24:02PM

Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon May 23 20:11:11 2016
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"

(process:729): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/0/dconf': Keine Berechtigung.  dconf will not work properly.

(process:729): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create directory '/run/user/0/dconf': Keine Berechtigung.  dconf will not work properly.

** (process:728): WARNING **: Could not make bus activated clients aware of XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=GNOME environment variable: Could not connect: Permission denied
xinit: connection to X server lost

waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.

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#13 2016-05-23 18:26:01

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

I figured out hat to edit xinitrx: #before 3 lines and adding exec gnome-session:

This happens on root:

X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 4.2.5-1-ARCH x86_64
Current Operating System: Linux archhyper 4.5.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 11 22:21:28 CEST 2016 x86_64
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=9d725af3-9fd2-40ec-b57f-db547fe01724 rw quiet systemd.unit=multi-user.target
Build Date: 05 April 2016  05:24:02PM

Current version of pixman: 0.34.0
    Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
    to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
    (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon May 23 20:21:10 2016
(==) Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
xinit: connection to X server lost

waiting for X server to shut down (II) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.

User still the same.

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#14 2016-05-24 14:01:08

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Ok something clearly goes wrong when starting gnome .

does executing gnome-session --session=gnome-classic as user from commandline work ?


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#15 2016-05-24 16:28:21

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Re: Updates cause boot loop

Lone_Wolf wrote:

Ok something clearly goes wrong when starting gnome .

does executing gnome-session --session=gnome-classic as user from commandline work ?

No, doesn't work it simply says "Beendet" - ended in english -.

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