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#1 2017-08-14 23:36:10

johan1391
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Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

HI,
I keep getting this error message:
Waiting 30 seconds for device and
unable to enumerate USB device
device not accepting address (error -71)
device descriptor read (error -110 and -71)

I've been trying all day to install Arch Linux onto my new laptop (GE72MVR 7RG Apache Pro). I've been using Rufus in dd mode with arch as well as the debian and ubuntu versions of mint, manjaro and then finally downloaded the fedora media writer and tried booting fedora all with very similar output. I've tried using the kernel parameters of nomodeset noacpi and a few others that didn't help at all. I also tried using one of the older Arch isos from 11/16. I've never had a computer that I'm completely unable to boot any distribution and make no headway on for hours. I'm at a loss, what else should I be looking at or trying?

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#2 2017-08-15 00:31:53

dockland
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Is secure boot disabled?


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#3 2017-08-15 00:38:24

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Yes it is

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#4 2017-08-15 00:43:11

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

GPT/UEFI mode or legacy/MBR?
Have you tried another USB stick?


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#5 2017-08-15 00:44:35

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

GPT/UEFI and no I have not but I bought it new yesterday. I also used the USB 3.0 and 2.0 port for each one to see if that would make a difference.

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#6 2017-08-15 00:49:12

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Can you try boot in legacy mode just to see if it boots property?


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#7 2017-08-15 01:04:10

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

How do I force it to boot using legacy mode/BIOS?

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#8 2017-08-15 01:05:56

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

You can change that in UEFI/BIOS. Turn off UEFI and try booting on the Arch stick again.


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#9 2017-08-15 01:08:11

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Alright I'll be back with an update.

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#10 2017-08-15 01:17:05

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Yes that does boot.... Wow I'm an idiot. Don't I have to install as uefi since my windows partition is? Also can I do that from legacy live USB or need to get it working in uefi mode?

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#11 2017-08-15 01:24:06

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

It would be easier if you could perform the install booting in EFI mode but with more work it should be possible to install it in bios mode but with the partition layout for EFI then add the NVRAM entry.
Edit:
The issue will come if the system refuses to boot the EFI bootloader/bootmanager.  Also does the system have an EFI shell?

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#12 2017-08-15 01:29:29

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Not natively that I'm aware of I do on my live USB.

Also any clue why it won't boot in UEFI mode at all?

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#13 2017-08-15 02:15:10

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Buggy UEFI fw perhaps. Check if there's an BIOS/UEFI update for your laptop.


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#14 2017-08-15 02:32:17

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

If you remove/disable the device with Windows installed on it will it boot the media then in EFI mode?

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#15 2017-08-15 03:19:57

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

This is what I've been getting all day trying to boot into UEFI mode. I've updated the BIOS firmware and that didn't fix the problem. This is what I've been getting for every distribution in some form:

https://i.lensdump.com/i/i7tTZ.jpg

How would I go about disabling the windows drive?

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#16 2017-08-15 03:23:29

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Read the Code of Conduct and only post thumbnails http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cod … s_and_code


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#17 2017-08-15 03:24:08

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Sorry Jason it won't happen again

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#18 2017-08-15 03:41:21

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

Is there a firmware option to disable the windrows drive or its controller?

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#19 2017-08-17 00:48:08

johan1391
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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

I did try that and it still did not boot up. I've installed arch by booting in legacy mode but am a bit nervous about setting up my boot loader in a way that will actually work. So I have my windows installed on an SSD and I'm installing Linux on the HDD. Is there any thing differently I need to do since I booted in Legacy mode rather than UEFI?  Do i need to get my thumb drive to boot from UEFI before I attempt doing it this way? Any other things I should check?

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#20 2017-08-18 15:03:41

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

It will be complicated at the least to convert Arch installed for BIOS to one for UEFI with an ESP. I recommend solving the problem with installing in UEFI mode.

What is this hardware? Do you have an CD/DVD drive? If not, it would be good to try another USB drive. It seems to puke on mounting that drive. I haven't figured out why but I have a couple USB sticks that won't work to boot a linux iso but will work to hold files.


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#21 2017-08-18 15:06:26

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Re: Unable to boot mulitple distributions. Cannot get live USB to boot.

BTW, I have wiped my troublesome USB sticks and put a new partition table on it and tried it with a new partition and I don't remember what else. I ended up getting another stick and moving on.

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