DE keeps crashing after upgrade

callmejoe · 2019-03-07 00:08:26

Well it's been only a week and I broke my first install of Arch.

installed in a virtual machine. was running fine until i decided to pacman -Syu. ended up not being able to boot back in.

after some research... file vmlinuz-linux returned "empty". so i reinstalled linux and updated grub.

able to boot back in but now it takes about 2 minutes for my DM to appear and then my DE just keeps crashing. i can get to a tty no problem.

any advice on how to go about fixing this?

thanks

callmejoe · 2019-03-07 02:36:34

update: i decided to try downgrading the kernel to 4.20.13. but still same issue

seth · 2019-03-07 07:56:11

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p1835212

callmejoe · 2019-03-08 02:08:29

seth wrote:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php … 2#p1835212

hey im not looking to get spoon-fed here. just point me in the right direction to get started

dmartins · 2019-03-08 04:04:40

Let's clarify. You can boot to a display manager, although it takes longer than expected, and then once you log in, your desktop environment crashes. Are you returned to the display manager at that point?
What display manager are you using?
What desktop environment are you using?
Please reboot and replicate the issue, then post the full output from these commands:

journalctl -b
systemd-analyze critical-chain
systemd-analyze blame
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
cat /var/log/pacman.log

If you are stuck in the CLI, you can send the output of a command to a paste service, then note down the URL it gives you back and post here.
Example:

journalctl -b | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw/

seth · 2019-03-08 08:18:18

Nobody suggested to spoon-feed you. The link Trilby gave you said to post actual data.
dmartins now spoon-fed you on which those might be…

callmejoe · 2019-03-10 05:55:45

dmartins wrote:

Let's clarify. You can boot to a display manager, although it takes longer than expected, and then once you log in, your desktop environment crashes. Are you returned to the display manager at that point?
What display manager are you using?
What desktop environment are you using?
Please reboot and replicate the issue, then post the full output from these commands:
journalctl -b
systemd-analyze critical-chain
systemd-analyze blame
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
cat /var/log/pacman.log
If you are stuck in the CLI, you can send the output of a command to a paste service, then note down the URL it gives you back and post here.
Example:
journalctl -b | curl -F c=@- https://ptpb.pw/

ok. thanks for the help. I am using lightdm and cinnamon

here are the urls for the output of those commands
journalctl -b https://pastebin.com/k9PaQGsM
systemd-analyze critical-chain https://pastebin.com/VjDBWxrV
systemd-analyze blame https://pastebin.com/LBSNDUGG
cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log https://pastebin.com/iQpwnsk8
cat /var/log/pacman.log https://pastebin.com/8bysc3SR

Last edited by jasonwryan (2019-03-10 06:27:38)

jasonwryan · 2019-03-10 06:30:53

[2019-03-06 14:02] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S --force linux'

2019-03-06 15:19] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S --force lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter cinnamon'

Your pacman log is a mess of partial updates and those force invocations are emblematic of someone who is not reading the wiki but relying on third party guides.
No wonder your system is borked.

seth · 2019-03-10 07:38:45

Leading to several empty libraries…

Mar 10 00:27:23 archman kernel: Linux version 4.20.13-arch1-1-ARCH (builduser@heftig-17556) (gcc version 8.2.1 20181127 (GCC)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 27 19:10:28 UTC 2019

Is http://archman.org/ the archlinux distribution you installed?

callmejoe · 2019-03-10 15:51:29

jasonwryan wrote:

[2019-03-06 14:02] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S --force linux'
2019-03-06 15:19] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -S --force lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter cinnamon'
Your pacman log is a mess of partial updates and those force invocations are emblematic of someone who is not reading the wiki but relying on third party guides.
No wonder your system is borked.

i've read the wiki.... a lot. i just dont understand a lot of it. when i ask for help here i'm just told to go back and read the wiki. so yes i look for help in other places and try things.

callmejoe · 2019-03-10 15:53:30

seth wrote:

Leading to several empty libraries…
Mar 10 00:27:23 archman kernel: Linux version 4.20.13-arch1-1-ARCH (builduser@heftig-17556) (gcc version 8.2.1 20181127 (GCC)) #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 27 19:10:28 UTC 2019
Is http://archman.org/ the archlinux distribution you installed?

i dont know what this link is to. i tried downgrading my kernel from the new 5.0 to the one i had previously. and yes, according to what i understood after reading the wiki on how to downgrade.

dmartins · 2019-03-10 18:22:53

This looks pretty broken. Reinstalling may be the easiest solution, but if you want to try to fix it, review you journalctl log for messages from ldconfig like:

Mar 10 00:27:26 archman ldconfig[376]: /sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libvpx.so.6.0 is empty, not checked.

You have many of these errors and it isn't normal. Some core libraries are apparently empty or missing. You could use pacman to find the owner of each library, and reinstall that package:

# pacman -Syu (potentially reboot to put new kernel / libs to use)
# pacman -Fy
# pacman -Fs libvpx.so.6.0
extra/libvpx 1.8.0-1
    usr/lib/libvpx.so.6.0
# pacman -S libvpx

Repeat pacman -Fs and pacman -S for each empty library file

You might also try pacman -Qkk and review the output for warnings about missing files.

Some more general suggestions:
Never use pacman -Sy <package>. Use pacman -S <package>. If pacman gives you a 404 error from the server, it is time to update your system. Do pacman -Syu, then try to install the package you wanted again. Read this.
Don't use yay. If you need packages from the AUR, learn to use https://aur.archlinux.org and makepkg well, before using an AUR helper.

callmejoe · 2019-03-12 04:57:14

i went through these steps but in the end I couldn't get the packages installed. Just kept telling me the files already existed in the filesystem

pacman -Syu (potentially reboot to put new kernel / libs to use)
# pacman -Fy
# pacman -Fs libvpx.so.6.0
extra/libvpx 1.8.0-1
    usr/lib/libvpx.so.6.0
# pacman -S libvpx

So I took your advice and reinstalled. and will follow the system maintenance guidelines better this time.

thanks for the help dmartins

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