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#1 2006-09-05 19:32:58

banana989
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Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

Howdy howdy, I just bought a Dell latop that has a T5500 in it. Should I install Arch64 on this bad boy or just regular arch? Does anybody have experience with new Dell laptops and their other devices ( wireless, sound , video , bluetooth , etc... ) . Thanks !

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#2 2006-09-06 16:47:16

dojo
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

Dual Core has 32 bit. So it makes no sence to install Arch64. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core .

To check what hardware is supported give http://archie.dotsrc.org/ (Archlinux based LiveCD) a try.

Greets

dojo

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#3 2006-09-06 20:24:26

banana989
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

The intel spec website says that all Intel Core 2 Duo chips support Intel Extended Memory 64 Technology. linky

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#4 2006-09-06 20:31:23

chrismortimore
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

Before picking between running 32bit and 64bit, I'd advise you to read up on the current limitations of running a 64bit box.  One such example is that win32 codecs won't work without emulating a 32bit environment through whatever means.  Likewise for Flash, and I think (correct me if I'm wrong), Sun's Java 1.5 stuff.


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#5 2006-09-06 22:02:36

toxic
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

Extended memory technology isn't the same as a 64 bit system.



A today standard system, 32 bits have the limition that they can only access so much memory as there's bits in one word (32). This results in 2^32 = 4GB memory maxium.

Now, Intel has some fancy technology, to i.e. use two registers or whatever to map more addresses in RAM than 2^32 ... That's a technique independant of the bus system, alas, I'd recomend that you install a 32 bit system.

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#6 2006-09-07 08:59:40

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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

Extended Memory 64-bit Technology (EM64T) is Intel's implementation of AMD64, a 64-bit extension to the IA-32 architecture.

I agree the name intel used is not very well chosen, but EM64T designates a 64 bit processor.

The T5500 in banana89 's laptop can run any 64 bit OS.

Whether 64 bit is a better choice than 32 bit is another question.


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#7 2006-09-07 15:17:15

1c3d0g
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

Right on, Lone_Wolf. :-)

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#8 2006-09-09 00:13:09

banana989
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

weird.... that is a misleading name. I think I'll just install regular Arch. I was reading that the 2.6 kernel has built in drivers for my wifi card. Now I just need to research into how to get the bluetooh & video out drivers working. Thanks for the info,  Arch has been my distro of choice for the past 3 years now and I love it !

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#9 2006-09-09 03:53:21

kill
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

chrismortimore wrote:

I think (correct me if I'm wrong), Sun's Java 1.5 stuff.

Here is a partial correction. Sun's Java 1.5 works just fine in x86_64 Linux. However the browser plugin is x86 only. So it works just not in a web browser.

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#10 2006-09-09 08:06:18

chrismortimore
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Re: Dell Core 2 Duo Laptop ?

kill wrote:

Here is a partial correction. Sun's Java 1.5 works just fine in x86_64 Linux. However the browser plugin is x86 only. So it works just not in a web browser.

Now that you mention it, that does ring a bell..  Cheers for the correction smile


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