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#1 2020-09-19 12:50:04

Registered: 2016-06-06
Posts: 201

vgacon: remove software scrollback support

I have tried to comment at linux torvalds comment, and patch: vgacon: remove software scrollback support. I think my comment didn't get through. Trying to write it here.

  • Paid attention, and using it

linus torvalds wrote:

see if anybody even notices

I noticed.

linus torvalds wrote:

probably because nobody actually _uses_ it any more

I am using vgacon. Partially because with GUI I get

$ make nconfig
scripts/kconfig/nconf  Kconfigmake nconfig
scripts/kconfig/nconf  Kconfig
Your terminal should have at least 20 lines and 75 columns
make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/Makefile:35: nconfig] Error 1
make: *** [Makefile:606: nconfig] Error 2

One reason is using large fonts. With vga I can have fonts large enough that doesn't trigger that error. And, not less important, I don't have to constantly scroll to the right, and back to the left.

  • sucker^Wmaintainer for it

I can't be the

linus torvalds wrote:

the sucker^Wmaintainer for it

Bad luck for me.

  • Does vga a fad?

Additionally, I think GUI badnwagon is not

linus torvalds wrote:

just a fad

But so does vga. It is widely supported. It is good there are alternatives, or partial alternatives, that work out of the box. Both for old, and new, hardware.

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#2 2020-09-19 14:04:29

Registered: 2014-03-06
Posts: 16,000

Re: vgacon: remove software scrollback support


#3 2020-10-05 21:06:00

Registered: 2014-09-22
Posts: 60

Re: vgacon: remove software scrollback support

I'm gotten used to the console scrollback with Shift+PgUp and Shift+PgDown, and I find the removal annoying. I'm fine with launching screen, tmux or dvtm, but still... installing and launching programs just to be able to see what just scrolled by? it's just... sigh... see also the phoronix forum

How do you feel about this?


#4 2020-10-05 21:30:56

Registered: 2012-05-17
Posts: 5,120

Re: vgacon: remove software scrollback support

I find it occasionally useful, but not important enough to maintain it.

If that turns out to be the case, we can resurrect this again, once we've found the sucker^Wmaintainer for it who actually uses it.

And there you have it. Functionality nobody wants to maintain will be removed.

Last edited by progandy (2020-10-05 21:35:11)

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#5 2020-10-05 22:47:09

Registered: 2014-03-06
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Re: vgacon: remove software scrollback support


#6 2020-10-06 07:41:12

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Re: vgacon: remove software scrollback support

Mod note: merged with existing topic.

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